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EdsCustomWoodCrafts

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06-23-2018 01:21 AM

I have a Craftsman router that has a fixed and plunge base, I have the fixed base in my Kreg router table

Today I tried to use my wrench to loosen the nut to release my router bit but it is badly stuck. I can’t even budge the nut around the colet . The router has a button that you press to engage the lock while using your wrench.

I have tried using a vice grips , Wd 40, applying heat with a blow torch at the nut, lastly I tried tapping all faces of the nut hopping to knock out what ever is preventing it from turning . I really don’t want to buy a new router as I have spent a lot of money on the router table setup….

Does anyone have any suggestions on lossening the nut , desperate

Thanks guys

-- Thanks Ed “A bad day woodworking is better than a good day working. ~Author unknown”


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#1 posted 06-23-2018 01:30 AM

Any chance u can get a screwdriver or something up in under the bit and try to knock it out? I know it’s tight working in there but if u can get it out mayb u can loosen up the nut.
Warning tho u may damage the router or the bit but currently it’s not real usable anyway

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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#2 posted 06-23-2018 02:05 AM



Any chance u can get a screwdriver or something up in under the bit and try to knock it out? I know it’s tight working in there but if u can get it out mayb u can loosen up the nut.
Warning tho u may damage the router or the bit but currently it’s not real usable anyway

- JCamp

I tried that the screwdriver bent

-- Thanks Ed “A bad day woodworking is better than a good day working. ~Author unknown”

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#3 posted 06-23-2018 03:26 AM

Lock the collet with that button….Add the collet wrench…and a hammer. HIT the wrench…making sure you are turning it the correct direction. Ball Pean hammer works quite well…..

Note: Collet will need to turn until it stops again, then wrench it some more….only then will the bit be released.

Collets have a safety feature….to prevent the bit from flying out. Nut will turn a few times, then it will stop….keep going with the wrench until the collet spins freely…THEN the bit will come out.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#4 posted 06-23-2018 03:35 AM



Lock the collet with that button….Add the collet wrench…and a hammer. HIT the wrench…making sure you are turning it the correct direction. Ball Pean hammer works quite well…..

Note: Collet will need to turn until it stops again, then wrench it some more….only then will the bit be released.

Collets have a safety feature….to prevent the bit from flying out. Nut will turn a few times, then it will stop….keep going with the wrench until the collet spins freely…THEN the bit will come out.

- bandit571

I have tried hitting the wrench with a hammer, I also hit a vise grips with the hammer as well but because the router is cylindrical its extremely hard to grip the motor housing what could be causing the collet to be this stuck????

-- Thanks Ed “A bad day woodworking is better than a good day working. ~Author unknown”

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#5 posted 06-23-2018 03:37 AM

Not sure which Craftsman router you have, but on both of the ones I have, the spindle shaft also has two flats that will accept a flat wrench should the lock button stop functioning. One of mine did… so it takes two wrenches to get the things loose. Bandits poor-mans impact wrench method may work as well, but you risk breaking whatever locking mechanism the router may have.

Cheers,
Brad

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#6 posted 06-23-2018 04:01 AM



Not sure which Craftsman router you have, but on both of the ones I have, the spindle shaft also has two flats that will accept a flat wrench should the lock button stop functioning. One of mine did… so it takes two wrenches to get the things loose. Bandits poor-mans impact wrench method may work as well, but you risk breaking whatever locking mechanism the router may have.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix


I have this one

Specifications
Item#: 00927683000
Model#: 27683

Are you saying to add two wrenches and then pull in the opposite directions

-- Thanks Ed “A bad day woodworking is better than a good day working. ~Author unknown”

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#7 posted 06-23-2018 01:18 PM

I had the same problem but with an older version. Used too much force and the locking mechanism just broke to pieces. It is made with plastic so be careful how much pressure you put on it.

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#8 posted 06-23-2018 03:05 PM

I don’t have any new ideas on removing the bit.
To your question about what caused it, you may have bottomed out the bitwhen you put it in. When you use it, it gets hit, expands and gets stuck. I always put the bit in to depth and then back it out 1/8”.
Good luck. That is a frustrating predicament.

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#9 posted 06-23-2018 04:05 PM

I have the same router….Model No. 320.27683

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#10 posted 06-23-2018 04:27 PM

My old Craftsman had that issue and the button was broken. As Brad said, that lower nut has 2 flat spots to allow a wrench to hold it. I wrapped the router in cardboard, put it in a vise and used a ball peen hammer to tap it loose. You’re fighting yourself if you don’t put it in a vise as the energy transfers to the router and not the nut. I’m assuming you are also using some kind of penetrating lubricant.


Collets have a safety feature….to prevent the bit from flying out. Nut will turn a few times, then it will stop….keep going with the wrench until the collet spins freely…THEN the bit will come out.
- bandit571

Ahhh….. I always wondered why my Bosch did that. Thought it was just binding. Silly me. Thanks.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#11 posted 06-23-2018 04:27 PM

I have given up at this point and to be honest I have probably damaged the router so I have decided to purchase a new router and I am going with the Bosch 1617EVSPK it’s been reduced at the Home Depot to $190

https://www.google.com/search?q=bosch+1617evspk+home+depot&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=svni&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQlrbFmerbAhVX1IMKHW3KAiEQ_AUIFCgE&biw=375&bih=548&dpr=3#imgrc=AdYQJktkWpQBAM:

-- Thanks Ed “A bad day woodworking is better than a good day working. ~Author unknown”

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#12 posted 06-23-2018 07:54 PM

Ok…seems you did NOT have the motor mounted on either base? Then expect to hold a round object freehand?

Perhaps IF you place that motor into which ever base is freed up….and try again? You may even get better leverage that way….but..what do I know, only used it for 8 years….

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#13 posted 06-25-2018 02:37 PM

I believe if you follow what bandit’s saying you’ll have an extra router ;-)

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#14 posted 06-25-2018 03:08 PM

When my wife cannot open something she gives it to me. Maybe try that but in reverse?

Bandit is right, put it in a base, tap it with a hammer (even the collet and maybe the bit in a safe spot (lightly). I would use a screwdriver and tap the base of the bit away from the collet very lightly.

Then give it hell. When you give up, you will have only been one more attempt away from success.

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#15 posted 06-25-2018 03:15 PM

can you take the plate off the bottom of the router and get a deep well socket on it?

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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