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dbw

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06-21-2018 12:41 PM

Topic tags/keywords: plunge router

Greetings. I currently have 2 Craftsman Professional routers. One is in my router table and it does OK. The other is in a plunge base and I am considering upgrading it. I do a lot of plunge work and I am not thrilled with the plunge action of the Craftsman. I’d like to have a Festool and I’m wondering if it is really worth the extra $. Some of the reviews I’ve read say the Festool is not a whole lot better than the other routers out there. I see a Bosch 23… is 1/3 the cost of an OF 1400. I’m also curious to know if the OF 1400 is worth the extra $ compared to the OF 1010. Your opinions and thoughts are greatly appreciated.

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Gene Howe

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#1 posted 06-21-2018 01:15 PM

Can’t go wrong with a Bosch.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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jimintx

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#2 posted 06-21-2018 01:47 PM

You should get the Festool if you simply enjoy the ownership of expensive tools. I understand that, and I know a lot of folks approach it that way.

If you only want to get a router that will do a good job and serve you well, the Bosch products are excellent, and the Milwaukee, and some Porter Cable and Dewalt products are well worth looking into. Also, I know that you will soon see some Makita advocates show up on this topic, as well. I only listed the ones I have direct experience with, and for me, that doesn’t include Makita.

-- Jim, Houston, TX

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Bill_Steele

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#3 posted 06-21-2018 02:02 PM

I’m interested in the responses to this post as well. I’m very close to pulling the trigger on an OF 1010. For handheld plunge work I want something smaller and lighter than the typical 1.75-2.5 hp plunge routers. My PC 690 plunge base is not that smooth and it’s easy to accidentally move it offline (even with an edge guide).

I went to the local Woodcraft store this weekend to look at the 1010 and the plunge action is exactly what I want. I could plunge it smoothly with only one hand on the router (not that I would use it like that). I want the plunge action to be very smooth and controlled.

The price of the OF 1010 is hard to swallow when you consider what similar hp plunge routers cost, but I would expect the router to last me 10 to 20 years. The last thing I need to verify is that I can center an inlay guide bushing on the base plate.

I think if you’re willing to pay $470 for the 1010 and need a router than can handle a 1/2” bit, then paying an additional $130 to get the 1400 seems reasonable to me. Everything I’ve read about the 1400 has been positive except for the price. I have read that some people feel the 1400 is not well suited for router table use—I’m not sure why.

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Andre

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#4 posted 06-21-2018 02:03 PM

As with most things in life, buy what you can afford! We all live with in a different pay scale, well we are supposed to:) LOL Yes Festool make a very good product, is it worth the extra $$$ IMHO why buy a Ferrari to drive down gravel roads? I have used some of the Festool tools and unless I could maybe write them off on my taxes or somehow justify their purchase(other than ego) I will purchase tools that work as well but cost a fraction?

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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rwe2156

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#5 posted 06-21-2018 02:23 PM

In my view, the main feature of the Festool routers is the variety the attachments and jigs they have that integrate with their guide systems, which depending on the type of ww’ing you do may warrant the cost.

I own an older model PC 690 which has a horrible plunge mechanism (I’ve tried lubing and troubleshooting. The newer ones are probably better, but IMO PC has really lost its quality in the last 10 years).

I use a big Triton for router table, but the plunge is excellent.

I have a DW611 with plunge – excellent. BTW this little unit has just about become my “go to” router for routing edge profiles, flush trimming, inlay. It has a surprising amount of power and an very nice depth adjustment.

I dont’ think you can go wrong with DW, Makita, Triton, Milwaukee or Bosch.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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BuffaloBrewer

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#6 posted 06-21-2018 02:28 PM

one pops up on festoolrecon.com on occasion, about 20-25% off full price. It would have a shorter warranty.

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JRsgarage

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#7 posted 06-21-2018 02:57 PM

When I was looking to upgrade my plunge router, I was looking at the Dewalt DW621, DW625 or Bosch. I like the switch locations on dedicated plunge routers.

As mentioned above PC 690 plunge bases are the worst I have ever used…

-- Two is One, One is None

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PPK

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#8 posted 06-21-2018 02:58 PM

I’ve seen a youtube on Festool showing the “guts” of their tools, and am not terribly impressed. You’d think for that much extra $$, you’d get a lot more tool. My opinion of course. The standard for routers was, and perhaps still is, Porter Cable. However, I’ve been very pleased with Bosch that I’ve used and abused in the past, and currently, I own 2 Milwaukee routers, that perform better than both the Porter Cable and Bosch. Price is right with the Milwaukee’s too!

-- Pete

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BroncoBrian

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#9 posted 06-21-2018 03:15 PM

I don’t think there is a better router to remain in your router table that the Porter Cable 7518.

I use an Incra lift and the Incra Clean Sweep and recently added a MuscleChuck. With the Incra Lift, the MuscleChuck was not necessary unless you change bits a lot and don’t want to use wrenches.

My buddy has the Festool and does not prefer it over his Bosch plunge router. I think Festool makes incredible tools like their domino or ROS units, but the router seems to be a stretch.

-- I saw a guy wearing a leather jacket at the same time he was eating a hamburger and drinking a glass of milk. I said "Dude, you are a cow. The metamorphosis is complete."

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Bill_Steele

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#10 posted 06-21-2018 06:04 PM

I love @Andre’s quote – “why buy a Ferrari to drive down gravel roads?” A Ferrari would be pretty bad on a gravel road.

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knotscott

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#11 posted 06-21-2018 08:38 PM

From personal experience, I really like the plunge base on the Milwaukee. I’ve also heard that the plunge on the DW is excellent.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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jimintx

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#12 posted 06-22-2018 02:05 PM

From personal experience, I really like the plunge base on the Milwaukee. I ve also heard that the plunge on the DW is excellent.
- knotscott

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-- Jim, Houston, TX

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