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Forum topic by Bertha posted 06-23-2011 02:14 PM 1460 views 1 time favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Bertha

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06-23-2011 02:14 PM

I’d like to put an incra positioner on my vintage saw.
It’s a Jet JTS-10 with a Bench Dog cast iron router table on the right.
I went to the INCRA page and was confused.
I went to Amazon and was bewildered.

I’d appreciate any input from someone who’s added this positioner to an older saw!

I’m happy to post any pictures requested. No nudes.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog


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#1 posted 06-23-2011 02:42 PM

I literally loled when I read that… No need to go ny-representative on us.

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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#2 posted 06-23-2011 02:50 PM

Your boy really bungled that on:)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#3 posted 06-23-2011 03:18 PM

Oh believe me, he’s not my boy. He was entertaining to watch and listen to, though (like the Congressional Correspondents Dinner).

Chris Lee wasn’t even my boy (although he was the rep from my district). I only have 2 ‘boys’ in Congress..

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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#4 posted 06-23-2011 03:46 PM

Hey Al – really 2 main decisions to make (32” or 52” range) the 52” eats up a bunch of floor space and second whether you want the joinery package – which I would recommend. This includes the wonder fence and right angle fixture…....

Here is the ultimate – and it is an easy bolt on to your saw:

LS-TS Joinery Package

It is very confusing until you actually use it and realize it is pretty straightforward simple design…....

Good choice by the way…...........

Jeff

-- Jeff - I have not failed. I've just found 10,002 ways that won't work.

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#5 posted 06-23-2011 04:50 PM

I have an old (very old) saw with an Incra fence on it. The Incra rail
system is adaptable to a lot of different circumstances, though if you
want to use the blade guard that came with your saw, you’ll probably
freak out about cutting the real rail in half.

The Incra positioner mounts more or less in line with the saw blade
and actually you can just screw it to an extension table if you want
to, skipping the rail installation.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Bertha

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#6 posted 06-23-2011 08:16 PM

Thanks fellas, and Stretch, I wasn’t insinuating he was “your boy” (when I directly called him “your boy” lol); I’d like to think I e-know you a bit better than that. JL7, I have the long rails currently on my saw, but they just stretch out past my right-sided router table extension. I had to tap them to take the router wing, so (to Loren) I’m not shy about destroying the existing rails. I need to read up a bit more on how the rails mount. I just really wanted a “yes” to the older saw question.

Thanks again!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#7 posted 06-23-2011 08:38 PM

Al:

Not sure what part is confusing for you? If the saw is the standard 27” deep table top, then you’d just follow the instructions as written. Because the carriage brackets are all assembled with T-slot bolts, there is some flexibility with how far apart the rails can be. Just looking at mine, it appears that it would work with anything less than the rails being 29” apart or so.

Mounting the rails is the wild-card. Best case scenario is that you can mount it directly to the table top with the supplied bolts and/or brackets. Otherwise, there should be little issue with attaching the rails to the extensions or what-not.

Incra gives first class instructions. I’d download the PDF version online first if you have any reservations or questions about the setup routine.

You’ll love the tool. Definitely opt for the joinery package and put that Bench Dog table to use!

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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#8 posted 06-23-2011 08:41 PM

Cosmic, I’m confused because admittedly, I’ve only glanced at pictures of it. Sorry. I had no idea the rails had sliding mounters. It sounds user friendly. I simply abused LumberJocks because I’m slammed at work and wanted the quick answer. Thanks for giving it to me:)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#9 posted 06-23-2011 08:45 PM

One more thing. Incra ships with it just about every sized mounting bolt for most all table saws. My Unisaw has factory tapped holes in the front of the cast iron top and regular holes in the back (requiring a backing nut). Incra provided all I needed to do this. If your table top has holes of some kind, setup will be a slam dunk. I would suggest the optional legs for the extension end, however. Even the shorter rails will sag a bit under the weight of the carriage, especially if you do mount the rails to the main casting of the top, which is as Incra designed it.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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#10 posted 06-23-2011 09:11 PM

Is it safe to say, Cosmic, that you’re an Incra fan:)? You might be one of the guys that got me interested. For a few hundred bucks, I can’t think of ANYTHING that has the potential to improve your work. The evidence is here, that’s for sure.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#11 posted 06-23-2011 09:56 PM

LOL! Yeah, I guess you could say that!

That tends to happen when a product so dramatically change the speed and accuracy of your work…and that’s just the table saw fence portion of that product. I have yet to fully utilize the joinery function of it since my old Rockler FX lift hasn’t been able to give the same level of accuracy because of sagging inserts and slippages in the bit height during a cut. I’ve solved that problem with a new PRL-V2 lift, but Woodpeckers failed to ship the lift wrench with the package. Ugh…so a couple of days more wait until I can have fun with it…with the new Milwaukee 5625 router, of course. :)

But yeah, I have a lot of Incra stuff, including a miter gauge and measuring tools…just great attention to detail with their products…not to mention they are made right here in good ol’ DFW!!!

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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#12 posted 06-23-2011 10:05 PM

I used to look at them like the WoodRat. I’d say, Wow, I bet that thing’s incredibly accurate…good for someone else, I suppose. Here now at LJ, where people speak of Starrett last word dial indicators, people are building CNCs in their garages, and Starrett is the standard, I had to take a second look. I’m also a sucker for the bulky anodized aluminum. Admittedly, I want a novice to enter my shop, gaze around, and be confused by the offerings:)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#13 posted 06-23-2011 10:52 PM

I have had the Incra TSLS 32 on two saws and just love it… very easy to install and set up…I too am a big fan of all things Incra and have all or nearly all they offer…You will be amazed… not confused… when you start using it…
PS here in the land downunder the cost is three times what you pay in the US…and still worth every cent….

-- Drink twice... and don't bother to cut... @ lazylarrywoodworks.com.au For lovers of all things timber...

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#14 posted 06-23-2011 11:01 PM

Back in the day, they seemed expensive. Now, everything’s expensive. This might hurt you DeGoose, but for $800, you can have a system here that looks like it could guide you to the moon; TS/Router/Stops, etc.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#15 posted 06-28-2011 05:40 PM

Thanks August, the long rail superversion is in my Amazon cart right now. Once I get the go-ahead from the fiance’, I’m going to get it. I also want to make sure that it will fit on my PM2000 when I finally get it. I’ve also been in touch with the Carter people, figuring out how to pimp my vintage bandsaw. The Carter stuff is expensive, but boy is their customer service good. For people who are real big on customer service (I’m not; I’ll usually break it before calling), Carter’s a good way to go.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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