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06-18-2018 11:52 PM

Anyone here have this machine? I’m trying to compare it to the Laguna 3HP cflux machine

-- Ken


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#1 posted 06-19-2018 12:42 AM

No. but I’d be throwing in the Clear View in the comparison too.

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#2 posted 06-19-2018 03:08 AM

newwoodbutcher,

I have neither machine. When I was upgrading my dust collection I eliminated those systems that offered the shorter cyclone bodies. My research revealed that maximizing the capture of the finer particles in the dust collection barrel (and thus keeping it out of the filters) is dependent on the time debris remains in the cyclone. The taller cyclones with a longer taper meet this requirement better that the shorter cyclone units. However, the problem with taller cyclones is that they require a greater floor to ceiling height. In a low-ceiling shop the size of the dust collection barrel would be reduced.

But if the decision has already been narrowed to the two units you are comparing, some important factors to compare would be: the fan performance curves (a graphs that plots CFM versus static pressure); impeller and motor sizes; the extent to which smaller particles are filtered from the air; and the total surface area of the filters. If these factors are comparable, then price would become the deciding factor for me.

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#3 posted 06-19-2018 05:31 AM

Good input, thank you. I’m trying to hold down cost on this. If $$$ was no object I would get a Clearview or Oneida with 8’ Norfab ductwork, no question. Not doing that, too expensive. Here’s my situation.
My current system has three 4” pipe runs, one with a 15” stationary planner, a 19-38 drum sander and two band saws, (one set up to re-saw) all on about a 20 foot run. The other branch of that run goes to a router table and 8” jointer about a 10 foot run and the last run goes to the cabinet table saw about a 25 foot run. All Ivac controlled blast gates, no 90 degree turns and no unnecessary turns, it all feeds into a Delta 1.5 hp Rated at 1100 cfm Dust Collector in line with a Super Dust Deputy cyclone, and a cartridge filter, works pretty well most of the time, once and a while it gets plugged up. Here’s a picture.

OSHA probably would shut me down if I were a business, but it almost meets my needs. I just need a little bit more CFM, 600-1000 more would surely do the job. My main considerations are, (a) Increase my CFM from the approximately 1000 com provided by my current set up, (b) has to fit under an eight-foot ceiling and limited foot print, must have easy to dump bag/barrel.

Turns out the foot print and height requirements narrow the field considerably.
My research leads me to two candidates that best meet my needs. The Laguna tools C Flex 3 hp system ($1,800.00) and the Baileigh DC-2100c ($1,600.00)

I’ve been down to the Laguna showroom many times ( they are an hour south) and have examined all their displays including the C Flux up close and personal. I know about the complaints about Laguna but they have always been good to me and I think the 3 hp C Flux system meets my needs, more money than I really want to spend though.

My thoughts: The Laguna C Flux 3 is advertised to produce 1624-2817 cfm, that’s plenty. But, while it will fit in the foot print, the 27” width is kind of tight for the space that’s available. But, I really like their drum dumping system. Also, $1,800.00 is not (for me) chump change. The Baileigh DC-2100c on the other hand is $1,600.00, has a narrower foot print (20”) and both units meet my, height, cfm and footprint requirements. It would be nice to spend $200.00 less on this but only if it’s a good product that I will be happy with for years.

I have no personal experience with Baileigh and can’t find much on them on line, so my question is does anyone have the Baileigh DC-2100c dust collector and what has your experience with the product been?

-- Ken

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#4 posted 06-19-2018 11:20 AM

You would be lucky to get 600 cfm with your current setup and probably in the 400-500 cfm range given that you have a dust deputy and fairly long runs.

Given that you are doing resawing and drum sanding, I would look at a longer cone on a dust collector. You will generate lots of fine dust and some have reported issues with the shorter cone DC.

Just a caution, carefully read the data on performance and how it was obtained and test conditions. I find the reported cfm of 2817 a bit strange for this class dust collector. I can not get that on my 5 hp DC.

Look at what your piping configuration that you will use and the performance curves and determine what cfm each collector will provide.

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#5 posted 06-19-2018 11:33 AM

I’m not a fan of the Laguna DC’s (see my review). They have lots of unnecessary bells and whistles. For example – the collector can on wheels weighs 30+ lbs. The handles aren’t well placed for emptying the can. The collection bag under the filter is little more than a garbage bag and is very difficult to reinstall when you empty it. The C-Flux I have needs a special high amp circuit so it won’t work on a normal breaker. It is also REALLY loud.

I would do a lot of looking around and ask questions before you spend your money. Getting a better quality DC is well worth the extra $$ and time.

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#6 posted 06-20-2018 11:42 PM

If you’re willing to spend $1800-ish, why not go for an Oneida 3HP V3000 (or a similar sibling) – but I’m guessing you certainly looked at this one and the footprint is just too big? Oneida are usually among the best rated. Expensive, but it only hurts once.

If you just want to get a 100 extra CFM, you could think of: getting a bigger blower motor & impeller & increasing ductwork to 5” or better 6”. A 20’ run + elbows on 4” pipe adds a lot of resistance. 6” pipe would about cut the static pressure loss in half, but you need a big enough blower to move the air quickly enough.

Have you run the # through a calculator? Or called Oneida for help? I hear they can help with the design.

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#7 posted 06-23-2018 04:28 PM

Another vote for Oneida, I researched cyclones a couple months back and while the most expensive the Oneida was superior.

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#8 posted 06-30-2018 03:57 AM

If the Oneida would fit in the space, that’s what I would get. It won’t. Baileigh was too hard to buy from. $500 shipping cost as their dealers don’t Cary inventory, limited reviews and referenceable users, I went with the Laguna 3hp machine. It gets delivered next week

-- Ken

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#9 posted 06-30-2018 04:28 AM

Ken I have the Oneida 3HP Dust Gorilla Pro with smart boost. I can’t say enough good things about it. It works as advertised. It’s very powerful and the smart boost does just that when smaller ports are active. But at twice the cost, I wish I had looked at the Baileigh too, to understand the differences. It does look like a good system with some nice features. I have to say, it’s a really goo price and if the system matches the expectations. Not too many reviews out there on it.

-- Bill, Yo!......in Brooklyn & Steel City :)

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#10 posted 06-30-2018 04:29 AM



If the Oneida would fit in the space, that’s what I would get. It won’t. Baileigh was too hard to buy from. $500 shipping cost as their dealers don’t Cary inventory, limited reviews and referenceable users, I went with the Laguna 3hp machine. It gets delivered next week

- newwoodbutcher


I believe you can buy directly from Baileigh.

-- Bill, Yo!......in Brooklyn & Steel City :)

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#11 posted 07-25-2018 06:26 PM

I finally got the Laguna C Flux three hp machine, it really sucks. Inly been installed a few days now but I’m very happy so far.

-- Ken

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