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Forum topic by BroncoBrian posted 06-17-2018 03:16 AM 1021 views 1 time favorited 32 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BroncoBrian

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06-17-2018 03:16 AM

Good evening everyone!

I know there are old threads about this, but I thought it was time for a new poll/argument.

Fence to the miter slot… Dead on or 1/128-1/64 out at the back?

I am about that measurement out right now and am curious what you all think. I know the distance between the front of the blade and the fence (at that point) is the width of the cut.

Thanks, BD

-- I think they could take sesame seeds off the market and I wouldn't even care. I can't imagine five years from now saying, "Man, remember sesame seeds? What happened? All the buns are blank."


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jbay

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#1 posted 06-17-2018 03:34 AM


Good evening everyone! I thought it was time for a new poll/argument.

Fence to the miter slot… Dead on or 1/128-1/64 out at the back?

Thanks, BD

- BroncoBrian

I set mine Dead on, (maybe 128th out at most)

-- “Hanging onto resentment, is letting someone you despise live rent-free in your head.” (Ann Landers)......

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Joe Lyddon

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#2 posted 06-17-2018 04:02 AM

Where’s the OLD one?

Why didn’t you post to it… to bring it back to life? LOL

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Rich

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#3 posted 06-17-2018 06:11 AM

I never thought about it or measured it. My saw cuts great as-is. Crap, I’m not sure I can sleep tonight now worrying about it.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#4 posted 06-17-2018 10:53 AM

I was taught to set mine with a tiny fraction toe out to offset any possible deviations of the fence, but I wouldn’t do it if I cut on both sides.

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BroncoBrian

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#5 posted 06-17-2018 03:40 PM

Joe: Because that is obnoxious! LOL. The last thread I found was 2007.

JBAY: Which saw/fence do you use?

Rich: Did you check this morning?

Knotscott: That is about where I am, just barely out and for the same reason. I have the better of the 2 Sawstop fences and there is definitely the slightest wave visible, so it seems to be the safest method. Would need to be adjusted if I cut from the left of the blade.

-- I think they could take sesame seeds off the market and I wouldn't even care. I can't imagine five years from now saying, "Man, remember sesame seeds? What happened? All the buns are blank."

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Charlie H.

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#6 posted 06-17-2018 03:48 PM

I have mine toed out a few 1000ths

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fuigb

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#7 posted 06-17-2018 04:09 PM

Dead-even, front and back of the blade. My saw is a Bosch 4100 where the factory fence alignnment provisions blow. Literally. So I use squares and set-up blocks to tweak my fence just right for each new cut. It’d be different if I had a proper cabinet saw but I have what I have and this system works for me.

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#8 posted 06-17-2018 04:18 PM

jet Xacta fence. Adjusted to 1/64” toe out. Re calibrate when I cut with the fence on the left side. Xacta fences are so easy to adjust, I check it often. It never seems to go off of where I set it. Since I don’t think Most of us can tell when a piece is 1/64th off I don’t get it much tighter than that.

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jbay

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#9 posted 06-17-2018 04:29 PM


JBAY: Which saw/fence do you use?

- BroncoBrian

I have a Biesemeyer.
I cut a lot of melamine, so if the fence isn’t dead on it will/can chip the off cut which often is the next piece.
Hardwoods don’t matter as much, but since I do cut melamine I don’t bother resetting my fence all the time

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Rich

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#10 posted 06-17-2018 05:06 PM


Rich: Did you check this morning?

- BroncoBrian

Yep. Perfectly aligned. I don’t recall ever touching it since I set it up twenty years ago. It’s a Delta Unifence and it’d take a sledge hammer to knock it out of alignment.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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BroncoBrian

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#11 posted 06-17-2018 05:29 PM



jet Xacta fence. Adjusted to 1/64” toe out. Re calibrate when I cut with the fence on the left side. Xacta fences are so easy to adjust, I check it often. It never seems to go off of where I set it. Since I don t think Most of us can tell when a piece is 1/64th off I don t get it much tighter than that.

- pontic

The cut is only made one time at the front of the blade. In theory, straight or out at the far end should not make a different cut. Plus, 1/128 to 1/64 over the length of the fence is almost nothing over the length of the blade.

-- I think they could take sesame seeds off the market and I wouldn't even care. I can't imagine five years from now saying, "Man, remember sesame seeds? What happened? All the buns are blank."

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Rich

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#12 posted 06-17-2018 05:41 PM


The cut is only made one time at the front of the blade. In theory, straight or out at the far end should not make a different cut. Plus, 1/128 to 1/64 over the length of the fence is almost nothing over the length of the blade.

- BroncoBrian

I’ve never really thought about it, but what you’re saying makes some sense. Seems like parallel would be ideal and some toe-out in the rear tolerable, while any toe-in could be disastrous.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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Woodknack

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#13 posted 06-17-2018 06:21 PM

Mine is as close to dead on as I can get it because I occasionally use both sides.

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Joe Lyddon

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#14 posted 06-17-2018 06:50 PM

What is wrong with the good ole Square and Parallel? (which makes 100% sense to me) ???

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woodbutcherbynight

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#15 posted 06-18-2018 02:00 AM


What is wrong with the good ole Square and Parallel? (which makes 100% sense to me) ???

- Joe Lyddon

Look Joe we are making space shuttles here. It has to be absolute dead on or the ship falls like a rock.

ROFL

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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