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Forum topic by sparks44pay posted 06-19-2011 06:20 PM 1020 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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sparks44pay

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06-19-2011 06:20 PM

I am in the market for a new router. I don’t use one a lot, and I have the chance to by a lightly used Porter cable 690 with fixed base and plunge base pretty cheap. I’ve never had a problem with any of the other PC tools I have and I probably won’t use it a lot. Can anyone think of a good reason I should spend a $150 dollars more for a new larger router/


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knotscott

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#1 posted 06-20-2011 02:21 AM

If you want to use it in a router table, be sure to get one with variable speed.

It doesn’t necessarily need to cost $150 more….if you’re patient, great deals come and go regularly on some really nice 11-15 routers with variable speed and other topside features. Keep your eyes peeled for deals on Milwaukee, DW, Hitachi, Bosch, PC, Makita, Freud, Triton, and Ridgid too.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Loren

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#2 posted 06-20-2011 03:12 AM

The 690 is a pretty versatile router.

A lot of guys feel they need a 3.25 HP plunger but I have never
had one and haven’t felt the need. 1.5 HP is fine for most work,
even raising panels.

I’ll argue that if raised panel work is your game, you should pass
on the big routers and get a shaper.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Tony_S

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#3 posted 06-20-2011 03:58 AM

I used to be a hardcore Porter Cable Router fan. We’ve got a shop full of them…some are probably close to 18 years old now. That’s 18 years of daily, HARD use.
I cringed when the sales rep told me they’d been bought out by B&D. He ASSURED me that absolutely nothing would change.
He lied.
Since the buy out, I’ve had three PC routers come through the shop. Two 7519’s and one 690. We’ve had Bearing issues with all three. Both of the 7519’s in the first week of use, the 690 within 6 months.

PC used to make the best routers on the market IMO. Now….they ain’t worth the box they come in.

JMO.

-- "The trouble with people idiot-proofing things, is the resulting evolution of the idiot."

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#4 posted 06-20-2011 03:19 PM

I’ll second what Tony said about the deteriorating quality of PC products. Recently I wanted to get a fixed base light weight router that will be used primarily with my dovetail jig. After much research, I opted for the Hitachi M12VC. So far I am very happy with it.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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EvilNuff

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#5 posted 06-20-2011 05:01 PM

I have actually not been happy with my Hitachi richgreer, the plunge action is really really resistant and hard to use on mine. :(

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sparks44pay

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#6 posted 06-20-2011 05:34 PM

Didn’t go with the 690. The one I was looking at wasn’t variable speed, so I decided to keep looking. I have had mixed results with Hitachi tools. Some worked great, others seem to have quality issues. Though with their new longer warranties the quality may have improved. I think most Dewalt tools are over rated, they are decent tools but they are no better than any of the porter cable, bosch, or milwaukee tools. I have heard good things about the bosch routers, but I have never used one. And I don’t know anyone with a milwaukee router.

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knotscott

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#7 posted 06-20-2011 06:00 PM

The Bosch 1617 is nice, and has those great hardwood handles, but it needs an adaptor to accept standard bushings…wish they’d change that. I’ve got currently two Milwaukees (5625/5615) and both run really strong…not much in the way of extra features, but are very well built. The Hitachi is light, quiet, has variable speed, and is often a good bargain.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#8 posted 06-20-2011 06:06 PM

EvilNuff – - My Hitachi is fixed base.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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sparks44pay

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#9 posted 06-20-2011 06:19 PM

I’ve heard the Hitachi plunge base is sitff several times. And I’ve heard good things about Festool, but not in my price range for something I probably won’t use on a daily basis. I’m leaning toward a Dewalt D618B3 set. I have a router table and with a good edge guide would probably meet any need I would ever I have.

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Bertha

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#10 posted 06-20-2011 06:27 PM

Everyone’s got a 690. Hard to argue with the popularity. Depending upon your use, I like the Triton. Good bang for the buck.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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sparks44pay

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#11 posted 06-20-2011 06:38 PM

I agree garyp. I have only Whiteside bits anymore, and have never found bits that last longer, run quieter or cut smoother. I do have a freud 97-604 raised panel set, don’t use it much though.

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sparks44pay

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#12 posted 06-21-2011 11:13 PM

I went with a Bosch 1617EVS. I got it at a local pawn shop for $70 and it looked like it had never been out of the case. I’m normally a little if about buying used tools but the price was to good to pass up and they let me plug it in and test it in the store.

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#13 posted 06-22-2011 12:09 AM

Sparks I have the 1617EVS as well and you are going to like that router. Very versatile, and can be used in the router table as well as freehand.

Think about getting the Bosch router table with it and you may find that you go to your router a lot more than you used too!! I bought them both at the same time and leave the 1617 in it most of the time.

I have an older PC 690 variable speed that I use for freehand work and on my dovetail jig.

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sparks44pay

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#14 posted 06-22-2011 12:23 AM

Cato I already had a Bosch bench top router table. It works great. I don’t spend as much time in the shop as I would like so only have one router. I just take it out of the table when I need to do freehand work or use the dovetail jig. Can’t see spending the money for two routers when I don’t use it that often.

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#15 posted 06-22-2011 12:28 AM

I also have the Bosch 1617EVS and its great. I use it both free hand as well as table mounted. I did buy an extra base for the table, Bosch has a dedicated base, so I can use it with the flip of a lever. It has performed well and the kit comes with a plunge and fixed base. I do agree that Bosch needs to change their base plate to accept the PC bushings but for $5 a universal plate worked just fine for me.

-- My job is to give my kids things to discuss with their therapist....medic20447@gmail.com

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