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Forum topic by Rydell posted 06-17-2011 07:01 AM 1748 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Rydell

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06-17-2011 07:01 AM

Topic tags/keywords: sawstop tablesaw 5hp 3hp

I’m currently in the market for a SawStop table saw. I was originally thinking about getting the contractor saw, or maybe even the 3hp professional saw, but I came across an opportunity to get a very lightly used 5hp single phase SawStop for 3k. It’s got cast iron wings, wheeled base, and 52” rails.

I’m a hobbyist woodworker and I do know that the 5HP is so much more than I would ever need power-wise. In fact, I’ve got a Ridgid TS3650 as my table saw now.

Looking around, it looks like I can get a new 3hp professional saw for around 3k, so the question is whether or not you think it’s worth it to pick up the used 5hp. What say you lumberjocks?


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dbhost

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#1 posted 06-17-2011 07:12 AM

If you can afford it, grab it. That is a pretty decent deal for a 5HP SawStop….

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#2 posted 06-17-2011 10:52 AM

I say why not. Though the PCS is no slouch, especially for a hobbyist, the ICS is certainly more robust and even more solidly built. Will you ever really need 5hp over 3hp? Probably not, but assuming the ICS is in good condition, it’s a good deal.

One difference between the ICS and PCS which may or may not apply to you is where you can place a router extension wing. The PCS has the motor on the left side of the saw, forcing the router’s position to be in the right wing or the extension table. The ICS has the motor on the right side of the saw, which allows you to place a router in the either the left wing or the extension table. Perhaps a minor point but something to keep in mind if you’re planning to add a router table to the TS.

-- Optimists are usually disappointed. Pessimists are either right or pleasantly surprised. I tend to be a disappointed pessimist.

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#3 posted 06-17-2011 01:34 PM

That 5 hp saw stop is a real piece of crap, i wouldnt touch that thing with a 1000’ pole, that thing is just built wrong and terrible to use. You really would be doing yourself a huge favor by continueing to use your current ridgid which has many advantages over that crappy saw stop you are looking at. Better yet, just give me the phone number of the fella selling that 5 hp saw stop so i can call him up and give him a real piece of my mind concerning that saw stop so maybe he will remove the add from CL.

Oh yeah, and before i get a chance to call that fella up on everyone’s behalf, does anyone have 3000.00 they could lend me.

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#4 posted 06-17-2011 03:17 PM

I recently purchased the 3-HP PCS SawStop and have been happy with it so far. I considered going with the ICS, but my shop is in our basement, so I have limited room and it would’ve been a complete pain to get an ICS down into our basement as the stairwell is totally awkward since it’s larger and a couple hundred pounds heavier than the PCS. And I may be moving all this back out through that same little hole sometime in the next few years if I end up putting a shop above our garage (which is just a dream for now, but might happen).

I agree with the above comments that if it truly is lightly used and in good shape, I would go for it if you have the room and either have your panel ready to go for the 5HP, or are willing to do so. Unless you already have 220v run for your shop, you’d have to do it anyway for the 3HP PCS, so it’d be similar on that end of things.

Let us know how it works out.

-- Jonathan, Denver, CO "Constructive criticism is welcome and valued as it gives me new perspectives and helps me to advance as a woodworker."

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#5 posted 06-17-2011 04:29 PM

I’d say if you’ve got 3k to invest in a table saw, get a used format saw.
The integrated sliding table has advantages you cannot even imagine
if you’ve never used one.

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#6 posted 06-17-2011 06:57 PM

Its a good deal. Once you add the mobile base, 52” rails, shipping, taxes, even the 3hp PCS is over 3k.
Nobody complains that they have too much power.

You may want to check the year it was made. I think the early saws had more issues with false triggers that were improved in later models. You might still be able to switch out the electronics. A call to Sawstop might let you know.

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#7 posted 06-17-2011 07:04 PM

When I bought my sawstop I was going to get the 3hp pro one which was 3K. After talking to the guys at wood craft I went with the contractor saw and a Jet 16-32 drum sander for the same price. I don’t regret it. I love having a drum sander and I just built a new front door out of 8/4 red oak and the saw did fine even when I was ripping a 3/4X1 dado down the door rails for the panels.

-AG

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#8 posted 06-17-2011 07:12 PM

@Rydell,
It does depend on what you see yourself using the saw for. If you’re thinking you’ll be cutting a lot of 8/4+material, I’d go with a 3HP, minimum. I had a Powermatic 64a (1.5HP/115v) before the new saw and it occasionally struggled with the thicker hardwoods.
Does this saw comes with any accessories, such as a mobile base? That’s another $300 right there for a new one. Even the less expensive mobile base for the PCS is $200. I went with the Industrial Mobile Base as I wanted the capability to easily move the saw in any direction with the 4-wheels, compared to the 3-wheel PCS base which isn’t nearly as mobile in a tight space like my basement. I had a 3-wheel base on the PM64a and it was a pain to use within my shop confines.

@AG,
I see your point. If it works for you, and you were able to get another highly useable tool for the same price as the PCS would’ve been, more power to you. I just felt I needed 3HP minimum as I love working with hardwood, and throw a decent amount of thicker stock at my table saw, and this trend will likely continue, if not increase for some of the projects I have on my never ending list.

-- Jonathan, Denver, CO "Constructive criticism is welcome and valued as it gives me new perspectives and helps me to advance as a woodworker."

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#9 posted 06-17-2011 07:43 PM

Does the 5HP motor need to be hard-wired to a dedicated circuit? That could be a minor inconvenience.

-- Greg D.

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Rydell

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#10 posted 06-18-2011 11:11 AM

Thanks for the feedback all!

In either case, I’ll need to run a 220 circuit, so that’s not a huge deal. What’s gonna be fun is figuring out how to get this 700lb beast from where it is now to my place! Guess i’ll be renting a truck with a liftgate!

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#11 posted 06-18-2011 05:57 PM

Is it single phase or 3 phase? 3 phase could be a problem…...... very expensive to set up if you don’t have it already.

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Rydell

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#12 posted 06-18-2011 09:47 PM

@RONFINCH – It’s a single phase saw

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#13 posted 03-04-2012 05:34 AM

How about a free SawStop? I have an Idea, see my blog!

-- Steve in Oregon,

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#14 posted 03-04-2012 05:52 AM

Kindly take your politics elsewhere. I don’t come here for political rhetoric.

Oh, and you might want to spell check your blog posts before posting them to keep people from thinking you don’t have higher than a fifth grade education.

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