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grego

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06-09-2011 05:34 PM

I’d love to get your thoughts on this: I’ve convinced myself to buy a router plane for cleaning up chiseled dados and grooves. Lee Valley has two available:

The router plane: http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=52609&cat=1,41182,48945
The small router plane: http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=57677&cat=1,41182,48945

For now, I’m trying to make small dovetail boxes with stopped grooves, so the small router would seem appropriate (and easier on the budget!) But I’m wondering if it would be a better idea to go for for the full size version now with its more sophisticated adjustments and fence so I have something more versatile for future work?

Will the full-size plane be awkward for working on small boxes?


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WayneC

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#1 posted 06-09-2011 05:39 PM

When it comes to the larger router, there are quite a few on the market. Might consider going with the small now and then looking for a vintage large one when you find it for the right price.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Bertha

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#2 posted 06-09-2011 05:52 PM

^agree with Wayne. I’d probably buy the smaller one, then go for a 70’ish Stanley.

http://cgi.ebay.com/OLD-USED-VINTAGE-STANLEY-TOOLS-NO-71-ROUTER-PLANE-NICE-/280692333450?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415a911b8a

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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WayneC

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#3 posted 06-09-2011 06:09 PM

Anji12305, assuming your limted to one plane, go with the larger? I was coming from a buy both perspective.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#4 posted 06-09-2011 06:14 PM

I hurt myself all the time with the router plane! I do exactly what Anji does, as well. Here’s my large. I made bigger red heart knobs for it. I think I paid $20 or so. You can also make your own irons if you’re even a bit handy.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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grego

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#5 posted 06-09-2011 09:34 PM

Thanks for the great ideas and advice.

I gather that the router plane can do pretty much anything that the small router plane can, so I probably don’t need both.

Vintage hand tools are few and far between here but it looks like I could get hold of an old Stanley 71 on Ebay for about $40 with maybe $20-$40 more for shipping. Based on internet reviews by Christopher Schwartz and others it sounds like the improvements in the Veritas plane over the older models just might be worth the difference in cost.

I think maybe it’ll be the Veritas router plane (and a box of Band Aids!) The kids can live on KD for a few days – right?

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#6 posted 06-10-2011 02:01 AM

Take a look here before you buy,
http://lumberjocks.com/mafe/blog/22902

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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#7 posted 06-10-2011 02:03 AM

I have the small router plane from leevalley and it’s cool but I wish I could’ve built one and saved the money and I got a discount on ebay I paid about $20-$30 with shipping.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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WayneC

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#8 posted 06-10-2011 02:11 AM

I’ve seen quite a few of the large planes here in CA at flea markets and such. They seem pretty common, which is where I was coming from. If you see no advantage of the smaller form factor for doing precision work then I think really becomes a matter of preference. The Large Veritas router plane is $145, plus fence and extra blades if needed. The small is $55.

I bet those shop made chisels in the August Fine woodworking magazine would work well too.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Gregn

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#9 posted 06-10-2011 02:32 AM

Bigike beat me to it with Mafe’s tutorial and making your own.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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Newage Neanderthal

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#10 posted 06-10-2011 03:19 AM

Al, all those plane are blocking your wood’s air, its turning purple for heavens sake.

-- www.newageneanderthal.blogspot.com . @NANeanderthal on twitter

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#11 posted 06-10-2011 03:15 PM

I got a 71 from eBay; however, after seeing Mafe’s tutorial, I will most likely build my own. I will have more time invested, but I will have much more pride in it, thus enjoy its use more, and the purest do say that it is better the tools be made of wood for it is gentler on the fibers on the face of the board.

-- Phil G

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grego

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#12 posted 06-10-2011 05:24 PM

Mafe’s plane is beautiful.

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bigike

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#13 posted 06-10-2011 05:32 PM

You can also make blades for these planes with old allen wrenches grind them and sharpen them just like a router plane blade.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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#14 posted 06-10-2011 06:40 PM

Bingo, BigIke! And lol with my friends above. Of course, making your own router plane trumps anything on the market, new or old. With BigIke’s suggestion and a few bucks of hardware & scrap, that’s clearly the way to go.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#15 posted 06-14-2011 03:57 PM

Ofset screwdrivers make excelent blades as well for a home brew trype..

-- Glen, Vernon B.C. Canada

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