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Forum topic by BoomWood posted 05-22-2018 07:36 PM 469 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BoomWood

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05-22-2018 07:36 PM

I know this topic is posted about a lot, but I’m at a complete loss!
I’m moving from a basement tiny shop to a 2 car garage. The only dust collection I have is a shop vac with the dust right separator.
I’ve researched this but can’t find a good option, and don’t really understand anything anyway.
For now, I’ll just use it for the table saw, bandsaw, and lunchbox planer.
I have an electrician coming out to install more outlets and a 220.
What’s the simplest setup I can get with about $1,000? No modifications, just assemble plug and play?
Thank you!


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GrantA

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#1 posted 05-22-2018 07:44 PM

I’m in the process of upgrading to a 5hp cyclone but I went from a shop vac to a harbor freight collector (no mods, gasp!) and have been perfectly happy with that. It does not get the fines, but you could use it as is and add a better bag or a pleated filter to improve that area.
I wouldn’t bother with upgrading the impeller, it’s a cheap unit that works fine. My new one will make it look like a shop vac but as long as you understand the limitations it’s a great option

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BoomWood

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#2 posted 05-22-2018 09:30 PM

I worry about harbor freight. Not to get into a debate about HF, just don’t want to deal with defects and having to return that big machine.

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Runner

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#3 posted 05-22-2018 09:56 PM

I went from shopvac to the Oneida mini-gorilla. Very happy with my purchase. Portability was key as I didn’t want ductwork, the Hepa filter was a bonus. Can be seen here:
http://lumberjocks.com/Runner/workshop

-- Kjell - Eau Claire WI

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BoomWood

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#4 posted 05-22-2018 10:13 PM

That looks interesting!
I can’t find any reviews aside from a couple on LJ. I’ll do some more research on it. Thanks!


I went from shopvac to the Oneida mini-gorilla. Very happy with my purchase. Portability was key as I didn t want ductwork, the Hepa filter was a bonus. Can be seen here:
http://lumberjocks.com/Runner/workshop

- Runner


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TungOil

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#5 posted 05-23-2018 12:57 AM

Take a look at the Powermatic, it’s in you price range and works well

-- The optimist says "the glass is half full". The pessimist says "the glass is half empty". The engineer says "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be"

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jimintx

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#6 posted 05-23-2018 02:24 AM

Your stated approach is just what I did, about three years ago. It will be very close on your budget these days, but here it is:
Powermatic 1791079K PM1300TX-CK Dust Collector, 1.75HP 1PH 115/230V, 2-Micron Canister Kit

http://www.circlesaw.com/dust-management/powermatic-1791079k-pm1300-dust-collector-1.75hp-2-micron-canister/
At that link it is priced at $929 now.

I arranged my table sw, miter saw, jointer, and bandsaw so that they were all near the location of the dust collector machine. I attached two 4” flex hoses to the machine’s two nozzles, with blast gates located right there at the machine’s Y-nozzle. I can move the hoses between those major equipment items as I need to. In practice, I end up with one of them almost permanently on the table saw.

I have made this work while I figure out how I want to install improved hard piping, and more blast gates. I have now gathered up the 4” sewer & drain pipe and a bunch of fittings and begun to assemble a better system. But for the first years of owning the Pwermatic DC, I was just loving having it at all, and have not been complaining about moving a hose from time to time.

I recommend, strongly, that you do something like this knowing that it can be improved over time. As you can no doubt tell from googling and from this site, there are thousands of firmly held opinions that offer many different ways to gather dust. What I wanted to do was avoid paralysis by analysis, spend money that would be well spent over time, and to get a good start on collecting a lot more dust than a shop vac was ever going to do.

BTW, since I got this approach started, I came back and hung a Powermatic PM 1200 air filtration box on the ceiling about in the middle of the shop, and between the band saw and the table saw. I think it has done a great job of cleaning up the ambient air when I run it. That is certainly not a cheap addition at about $450. When I could afford it I did it, and I think it is worth it when a lot of out is being generated in the shop.

-- Jim, Houston, TX

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GaryCK

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#7 posted 05-23-2018 04:28 AM

I bought the Oneida Mini Gorilla as well, in part because of its portability and not needing to run ductwork. It has worked very well for me.

-- Gary, Wisconsin

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jimintx

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#8 posted 05-23-2018 06:23 AM

The Oneida Mini Gorilla, at ~ $1,200, is no doubt a good DC machine. It isn’‘t all that small, however. The specs say it has a footprint of 36” x 30”. Compare that to the footprint of the Powermatic 1300 which measures 38” x 22”, so not much actual difference.

A note I intended to add in post #6 above:
The PM1300 has a 6” inlet port, with the removable Y that converts to a pair of 4” ports. PM says it can be run as a 6” system or as two 4” systems. My use of a blast gates on each side of the Y to have a single operating 4” leg may not really be necessary. I have not played with that option of having the hose on both sides open.

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-- Jim, Houston, TX

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msinc

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#9 posted 05-23-2018 11:49 AM

Another vote for the PM1300!!! I have one and love it. I will say one more thing for it, seeing all that dust collected on one spot makes me wonder how I ever managed without it. Obviously, it don’t do much for anything dust generating that is not hooked to it, but it really makes a big difference with what you can hook up to it. I never realized a 15” band saw generated so much fine powder like dust.

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