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LewH

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1153 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: lathe

Having read all the good reviews I bought the 12 1/2” reversing Delta Midi Lathe with stand. The issue I am having is that the legs on the stand are straight, not splayed out as shown in the product listing and even in their instruction book. Since this reduces the “stance” of the stand, it would have to be less stable.

Here is the link with picture:
http://www.amazon.com/Delta-Industrial-46-462-Midi-Lathe-Stand/dp/B0030MGNP6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1307196437&sr=1-1

Has anyone else encountered this? Any problems with stability?

Thanks,

-LewH

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TheDane

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#1 posted 1153 days ago

Hmmm … thanks for the heads up. This stand and the 46-460 lathe are on my shortlist, so you have piqued my interest!

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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nerdkraft

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#2 posted 853 days ago

Did you end up getting the stand? Any thoughts?
I am thinking of getting the same lathe and can’t decide whether to buy the delta stand or to look for an alternative.

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LewH

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#3 posted 852 days ago

I did end up getting the stand, and thankfully there have not been any stability issues. However, I would not get the Nova 46-461 Reversible Chuck – it is OK, but I have lost a few bowls flying off at the wrong time, but the real issue is the accessory selection is limited. You might go with a chuck from Penn State Industries – cheaper and more accessories. Also be aware that the support posts for the Delta midi lathe need to be longer than other midi-lathes – I am still looking for a source for those.

All in all I like the lathe.

Happy turning

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nerdkraft

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#4 posted 852 days ago

Thank you for the reply!

Glad to hear that the stand is good. That saves me quite a bit of research :)

What do you mean by support post? Tool rest or something to do with the stand?

Chuck – I have a SuperNova 2 chuck already. Maybe the question of whether this is too heavy/big is worth a new thread.

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TheDane

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#5 posted 852 days ago

FYI—I hear people are having trouble getting parts for the Delta 46-460. I ordered an S-Curve Rest from Craft Supplies back in November … finally cancelled the order a couple of weeks ago. Another turner reported that he was having trouble getting a replacement belt. Hope Delta gets their act together … the 46-460 is a great product!

I needed mobility, so instead of the Delta stand, I built my own.
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—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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nerdkraft

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#6 posted 852 days ago

Wow! That’s an awesome stand/cart! Giving me ideas :)

As for replacement parts – I checked on the delta website and it looks like belts and more common parts are available now but still out of stock on speed controllers. I am a bit concerned about this but am thinking it’s probably still worth the gamble over getting a jet or rikon.
Thoughts?

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TheDane

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#7 posted 852 days ago

I have turned on Jet and General Intl mini-lathes (never laid hands on a Rikon), and neither hold a candle to the Delta.

I bought my Delta 9 months ago and have done bowls, plates, a small vase, and about 100 pens. Hindsight being 20-20, I would still buy the Delta.

Delta know they have a winner, and I have to believe they will get the parts supply problem cleaned up.

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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JdLandry

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#8 posted 850 days ago

Which would you choose from the Delta 46-460, The Jet 1220 VS, or the Grissly G0462? I’m looking at all three because they are all right at the same price. Let me know your thoughts please.

Thanks

Jeff

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TheDane

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#9 posted 850 days ago

Jeff—That’s sort of an apples/oranges/pears comparison … I think it depends on what you intend to do with the lathe.

The Jet (a ‘mini’) has 3/4hp motor, and even though it can handle stock 20” between centers, it may be a little underpowered. I’m not sure I would want to try to turn a 12” bowl in the Jet, and from personal experience, I found the VS control a bit chinsy.

The Delta (a ‘midi’) has a 1hp motor, and can handle much heavier stock. With an extension bed installed, you get 42” between centers. I have a 46-460, and like the fit/finish (the VS control is integrated into the headstock, and is not a box hung onto the casting). I have turned bowls up to 10” with no problem.

The Grizzly is a full sized lathe (weighs about 375 lbs), has a 16” swing over the bed, and 43” between centers. If you want to turn 13” bowls, the Grizzly is the only model you specified that can do that. If space is at a premium in your shop, you may not want such a large machine, and if you are going to turn pens and bottle-stoppers it may be overkill.

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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nerdkraft

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#10 posted 850 days ago

Jeff – I am looking at the same machines.

Grizzly – looks amazing on paper. The thing that scared me off was a minimum speed of 600rpm. I would not want to put a 10”x4” out of center bowl blank on a machine and start above 400rpm. Also, searching the forums seems like there are alignment issues and the machine eats belts. As tempting as a full size machine on a midi budget seems, I’m passing. I’ve been burned too many times by grizzly and harbor freight.

The Jet – looks like it could be a decent machine. This may be propaganda but I then read the review from fine woodworking delta touts on their site. Under load, the delta was still at 80% of speed whereas the jet was down to 40%. This seemed like a big deal to me.
However, it is a heavier machine and the reviews seem to indicate that it is a bit more stable, albeit not as well tuned/aligned or designed.

However – it does seem like a solid tool otherwise. Some thrilled reviews. Some people peeved and having major issues with it.

http://www.deltamachinery.com/downloads/publications/2012_Tool_Guide_Fine_Woodworking.pdf

Delta – LJs and reviewers seem to love this machine and call it out for being drop dead accurate. There have been MAJOR issues reported in getting parts. The other problem I have noticed in reviews from amazon is that people have gotten defective machines.

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nerdkraft

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#11 posted 850 days ago

Although – I will say that the Jet 1220vs gets really solid reviews without the parts issues.
Hrm… having some second thoughts.

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JdLandry

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#12 posted 850 days ago

Let me give a bit more background. I am a paraplegic and use a wheelchair 100% of the time. I need something that belt changes (if necessary) are convenient to access from the front while sitting in a wheelchair. This is also why I was looking at the grissly. I like the idea of rotating the head stock. I consider myself a newbie at turning because I haven’t touched a lathe in over 25 years since I was in school. I will be starting out on smaller items, ie, Pens, bottle stoppers, candle sticks, but would like to turn bowls and plates after I get proficient on the machine. I’m also looking at placement issues. The grissly comes on a stand that I could actually pull under and work at a more comfortable level. If I place a lathe on a bench top the height factor of the work concerns me. The three lathes that I mentioned are all at basically the same price, which is at the max of my budget. If you know of others that are worth my attention, please let me know. I can’t afford to buy something only to find that it’s a piece of crap and can’t use.

Thanks again,

Jeff

-- Jeff

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TheDane

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#13 posted 850 days ago

Jeff—You might want to check out the Sit Down Lathe Stand at http://www.iluv2turn.com/delta-lathe.html.

One of my mentors (he is 83) recently suffered a stroke and has very limited liability. With this stand (invented by a member of our local turning club), he has been able to get back to doing what he loves.

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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JdLandry

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#14 posted 850 days ago

Can you put me in touch with the creator of this stand? That would be a big help for anyone in a wheelchair or someone who can’t stand for long periods of time.

Thanks for the link.

-- Jeff

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TheDane

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#15 posted 849 days ago

Jeff—As far as I know, he is not on LJ, but if you go to his website and fill in the contact form he has there, I’m sure he’ll get back to you.

If you will PM me with your email address, I’lll shoot him a note. That way I’m sure we can get you guys connected!

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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