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Docopac

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06-03-2011 05:58 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw

I am in the market for a new table saw and have narrowed my selection to 2 different saws. I know there are more and better saws out there but due to budget and space issues I have decided to go with either the Grizzly 0715P or the Steel City 35990C.

I have read good and bad posts/reviews on both saws. I like some of the features better on the Grizzly, but the posts talking about the blade run out scare me. I have a Ryobi jobsite saw now that can’t make a square cut and I don’t want a saw that can’t do a straight rip cut.

Which saw would you choose?

Thanks for any input but please limit it to the 2 saws I am trying to choose between ;-) Thanks

-- Docopac (a carpenter in a different medium)


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TimL

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#1 posted 06-03-2011 06:33 PM

I would go with the grizzly. Dust collection, rigidity, and customer service. Contractor saw has no dedicated dust collection, wobbly legs instead of a more rigid cabinet set-up. As far as blade run-out I have only read one nightmare on here and it sounded like the issues came up after it may or may not have been bumped down the basement steps. Keep in mind that there is more grizzly green in my shop than the average bear, but I would recommend the Hybrid over the contractor model no matter the brand.

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#2 posted 06-03-2011 07:31 PM

One thing to consider, if you haven’t already, is that the Steel City is available through Lowes.
A 10% coupon can be had pretty easily, and the saw can be returned pretty easily if you don’t like it (assuming you have a Lowes nearby).

That said, I know very little about either saw, but the ONLY thing I dislike about Grizzly is the inability to easily return merchandise if I don’t like what I receive. I read the occasional story about people spending hours and hours trying to fix problems with a Grizzly machine. Some of the motivation to fix/adjust thier brand new machine is undoubtedly based on the hassle a freight return would present. But these cases do seem to be the exception and not the rule.

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Kevin

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#3 posted 06-03-2011 10:41 PM

Grizzly 715.

Expect to fine tune adjustments on either machine you purchase.
Make sure that no damage is on any boxes. If so then mark it and send it back unless you are confident it’s not going to affect the machine.

Grizzly had stickers bright red on my jointer across all sides of the boxes with the effect of Fragile, do not tip, turn over or anything to that nature. My boxes were in prestine condition to say the least.

Good luck.

-- Williamsburg, KY

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gfadvm

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#4 posted 06-04-2011 05:40 AM

Ive had the new 715 Grizz hybrid since Mid Feb,used it daily,and love it.I didnt have the set up problems others reported. I also have the extreme series 17” bandsaw which has been trouble free for three years. Maybe Ive just been lucky but Grizzly has treated me well and they have knowledgable tech support people who seem very anxious to help.

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Docopac

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#5 posted 06-04-2011 09:52 PM

Thank you for your input. I am leaning hard toward the grizzly machine. Now to just finally convince my wife ;-)

-- Docopac (a carpenter in a different medium)

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#6 posted 06-05-2011 01:57 PM

Have you considered the Steel City/Orion-made Craftsman 22116? It’s essentially the same as the Steel City 35930 (and 35925 w/lesser fence), which is a more proven design than the 35990. Full enclosure, Biese clone fence, yoke style cabinet mounted trunnions, one-piece cast arbor carriage/blade shroud, granite top. It goes on sale as low as just < $700….more often in the $800-850 range. Currently $900, but it’s worth asking a manager if they’d go to $800.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#7 posted 06-05-2011 04:04 PM

Sorry Craftsman Guys! but in IMHO its the Grizzly all the way! The 715 has a 1/4 horse more HP.I am probably stepping on some more toes but if you can eek out another $500 beans I would go with the Grizzly GO690 3hp,massive cabinet mounted trunnion,”If your in for a penny your in for a pound”

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#8 posted 06-05-2011 04:54 PM

Chipy – Removing the brand nameplates from the equation, I really don’t think you’ll notice a 1/4hp difference, if it’s even a true difference. However, the cabinet mounted trunnions on the Cman and Steel City are considerably easier to align, which improves your chances of getting the alignment perfect….alignment and blade selection will make a very noticeable difference in perceived cutting power. The G0715P might turn out to be a good saw, but it’s still relatively unproven, and there have been some early issues that I’d want to see ironed out before making the purchase. I agree with you about the G0690 though!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Chipy

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#9 posted 06-06-2011 01:18 AM

Knotscott True.Without knowing what motor is in each saw the difference could be negligible.But docopac got to check out the Grizzly Go690 691(50 inch fence)Think of it the ability to cut a 4’x8’ in half!!!

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rance

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#10 posted 06-06-2011 01:24 AM

Docopac, I am really curious as to what made you narrow your search down to these two saws? Price, features, brand, fence, the type of projects you build? Do tell. :)

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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Docopac

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#11 posted 06-12-2011 07:00 AM

Hi rance, A lot of the issue was price but also space. I work out of my garage for a shop and have a ton of other stuff in there too. Read as space is at a premium.

I am not still debating but I was just offered a new Jet pro shop in the box for $800 the only thing I wonder about on the jet is the stamped steel wings instead of cast iron.

-- Docopac (a carpenter in a different medium)

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#12 posted 06-12-2011 11:09 AM

Cast iron wings are definitely a “nice to have” but not a “must have”, plus just about any 27” CI wing can be added to a 27” deep saw, so you might just stumble into a deal on some 27” CI wings of another brand. You could always add your own shop built extensions too. The Jet is a very nice hybrid, but note that it doesn’t have a riving knife AFAIK. That price sounds fair but isn’t steal. Here’s a link to Tom Hintz's review of it.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#13 posted 06-13-2011 02:37 AM

I’m also in the market for a saw and have been considering the same two models. For me a riving knife is a must have so that eliminates everything i’ve seen on craigslist. I’ll be interested to read what others add to this thread.

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Don W

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#14 posted 06-13-2011 02:35 PM

There are some after market riving knives. If you see something good on craigs list you could research (or ask here) about an after market knife for it.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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