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SCOTSMAN

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05-31-2011 10:15 PM

I am looking to buy one of these sets of battery double drills sets. The non lithium ion one I E the blue one I just had bought seven months ago and gave to my son seven days ago as he liked it so much. Hence the need to buy new the lithion ion ones come in two different numbers 204 W and 304 W can anyone tell me whats the difference between them if you have any comments let me know kindest regards Alistair

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#1 posted 05-31-2011 10:18 PM

I’ve got the second black and white ones. They are the best drills I have ever owned. Hands down. Nothing else close. The hold a charge exceptionally well, charge quickly, deliver plenty of power at 18V Li+, and even have a bright LED light. My next drill is going to be that itty bitty Bosch that everyone here likes so well.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#2 posted 05-31-2011 10:24 PM

I have the 10v set. They are great aound the house drills. I have a second set of larger drills that I use in the shop and for projects.

http://www.amazon.com/Makita-LCT200W-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless/dp/B000V2DSE2/ref=sr_1_8?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1306873378&sr=1-8

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#3 posted 05-31-2011 10:26 PM

^that’s the exact set I have, Wayne; with the silly square bag (which still confuses me a bit). I use mine as a lunchbox.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#4 posted 05-31-2011 10:28 PM

I don’t have experience with any of these but I can explain the difference between a hammer drill and an impact driver. You will note that both sets include a drill driver. One also includes a hammer drill and the other includes a impact driver.

The bit of a hammer drill goes in and out very rapidly as it is spinning. It is applying an up and down hammering action to the drill bit as it spins. It’s intended for drilling holes into concrete with a masonry bit.

An impact driver provides a pounding (impact) force to the rotation of the bit when the going gets tough. Envision hitting a wrench with a hammer to give the wrench more turning torque. An impact driver is great for screwing wood screws into hard wood with a small or no pilot hole. They can really apply some torque.

I have both a hammer drill and an impact driver. I only use the hammer drill occasionally. I use the impact driver all the time.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#5 posted 05-31-2011 10:30 PM

Ithanks Rich I would like to know the difference between the 204W and the 304W and check whether they are better than the standard blue ones I have heard lithion ion are better but don’t know why. I don’t really need a hammer drill m,uch either but would use the other for screwing screws in all the time thats what I want them for. Alistair

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#6 posted 05-31-2011 10:32 PM

On board with Rich 100%. I rarely use my drill driver, instead using the impact for almost everthing I do. I like not having to fool around with the chuck and it’s a comfortable size. I’ve got a ridiculous Hilti hammer drill that’s really got no purpose in my shop. Rather than unpack it off the shelf, I used my little Makita to mount a lug in my shop floor.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#7 posted 06-01-2011 12:52 AM

I have Bosch stuff, but I assume it is all pretty much the same. I have 12 volt stuff down at the vacation home in La Conner, and 18 Volt here. I think I will get rid of my old drills here and replace them with the much more compact 12 Volt drill and driver. To be honest, so far I can’t see much difference in the 18 V versus the 12 V in terms of function, except the 12 V are more compact. With all these Bosch tools I notice:

I can put in screws very slowly with the excellent variable speed impact drivers, without the impact part coming into play. The variable speed control with these tools is superb. As Al notes, the driver is the item, you can use it for anything including drilling with the quickset drill bits. There has been tremendous advances in the variable speed control and power of the compact tools. My new 18 volt stuff will destroy wood if I am not careful. The 12 volt stuff does the job well with a great form factor. At home I think I will have both. At the vacation home I will settle for just the 12 volt.

I assume, the Makita stuff is similar. Probably a good assumption.

I do not have much use for a hammer drill, and I have a 30 year old Skil corded hammer drill. But that part of it has never been used much.

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#8 posted 06-01-2011 01:08 AM

alistair

the blue one is 14.4v standard battery
the b/w is 10.8v lithium

the other difference is L20

for my money get the lithium

get the blue one for bronwen
if you like
for fixing things around the house
and mixing cake batter

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#9 posted 06-01-2011 01:33 AM

Do not settle for less than lithium ion. That’s where it is at. You might check out the Bosch versus the Makita, I am not sure there is any difference. My new stuff is Bosch. My old stuff is Makita.

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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#10 posted 06-01-2011 01:49 AM

Lithium is the way to go. I have the 10.8 b/w set, which gets 90% of the use. I also have the 18v lithium
Fine tool. I have never used better drills.

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#11 posted 06-01-2011 02:10 AM

IMHO don’t buy either, hold-out for the 18v lithium ion (over the 10.8v and 14.4).

I bought a Makita 18v kit 5-6 years ago and last year (Popular Mechanics?) found Makita’s 18v cordless drill tops. You can never have too much torque or staying power. Doesn’t sound right… you’ll like the power of the 18v. [Oops, 2nd ShaneA’s comment.]

-- David, USA - New Jersey

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#12 posted 06-01-2011 02:48 AM

I have an 18v Lithium drill and am very happy with it…it only came with one drill—-but two battery packs so you are always ready to go…

-- Matt--Proud LJ since 2007

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#13 posted 06-01-2011 03:18 AM

I have to agree with the vote for the 18v lithium Makita. When I purchased mine it was before they started offering the combo packs. (It always happens to me, the tool guys did it to me with routers many years ago)
I had to choose between the drill/driver or the impact. I went with the impact because for another $20 I got 3xs the torque.

Turns out it was a good decision. The impact doesn’t strip out the head of the screws the way the drill/driver does. It’s the extra torque, gives you more control. And the lithium batteries recharge in 15 minutes as opposed to 1 hour for the old ni-cad.

I don’t know what model # I have, I’m using the black and white 18v. It’s called the compact impact, they have it a green 18v version referred to as the heavy duty impact. It has even more torque and the battery is twice as many cells.

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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#14 posted 06-01-2011 04:28 AM

Bosch
lithium
PS21 PS41

-- Rick

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#15 posted 06-01-2011 09:34 PM

Jim I have alot of makita stuff and feel it gives the best bang for the buck out there I have never had anytrouble with them and their very popular here in Scotland.I will either go for thelith ion or for 18 volt nicad.thanks everyone so far Alistair

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