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Forum topic by botanist posted 05-31-2011 07:14 PM 1306 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-31-2011 07:14 PM

My father in law just sent me this link for an interesting saw guide for those of us who like to use hand tools over power tools

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#1 posted 05-31-2011 07:19 PM

I don’t want one but, that’s pretty ingenious

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#2 posted 05-31-2011 08:10 PM

Thats pretty neat how you can use it to rip boards straight or with a bevel.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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#3 posted 05-31-2011 08:47 PM

Things like that kinda just make me wonder why the person doesn’t just use a powertool. I mean, if you just trying to get a perfect result without the effort why not just plug in a tablesaw? Just seems odd to me.

-- The confused powertool using galoot

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#4 posted 05-31-2011 09:00 PM

I’ve been using one of these for several years.
They are designed for use with Japanese pull-saws.

Here is the video for the model I have.

The same company also makes a mini-saw guide that I have.

Here’s a video for the Saw Guide Mini.

I bought mine from Lee Valley. However, I think they discontinued carrying it.

-- 温故知新

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#5 posted 05-31-2011 09:06 PM

A power saw cannot make the same kind of joinery cuts that
can be made with a handsaw.

These things are Japanese and used in timber framing. It is not
practical, easy, or accurate for all joinery to use a power tool.

You may be able to make a perfect square cut with a circular
saw for example, but what if you want a slanted kerf? It
requires an awkward jig to do it on the table saw, and if
you don’t have a large sliding table it cannot be done on
a long board. It can be done with a sliding compound saw,
but what if it is a slanted cut on the end of a 20’ 6×6” beam?
It can be done of course, but is awkward, time-consuming
to get set up right, requires heavy lifting, and on and on -
and I could have cut the joint in a couple of minutes with
a handsaw, a slick and a mallet.

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#6 posted 05-31-2011 09:32 PM

I think I didn’t make my point very well. I completely understand why handtools are preferred in many situations. I do pretty much everything by hand now, even milling. My tablesaw is unplugged and stays nice and clean, normally only getting plugged in for DIY plywood stuff. And the powertool user who need to make that occasional awkward cut would probably love something like this. However the video shows making cuts that are routine on powertools and the OP mentioned it as something for handtool users.
As far as the slanted kerf, what if it is at 37 degrees, that thing is useless but I can free hand the cut easily.

-- The confused powertool using galoot

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#7 posted 05-31-2011 09:44 PM

You should be able to do this work jig-less if your serious about woodworking. Sorry I am not impressed with this type of tool it takes the activity out of woodworking for me.If you can’t cut straight then learn that’s how I feel a bit of happy practice is better than a no brain activity. I enjoy the handwork too much to have the simplest of tasks worked out for me sorry don’t mean to be rude or upset anyone but no thanks on this. Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#8 posted 05-31-2011 09:48 PM

I’ve got both powered and unpowered. My skill level is such that I have difficulty using either;) Like you Neander, I just seem to enjoy the handwork better.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#9 posted 05-31-2011 09:53 PM

I would agree with Scotsman. This is one of those things that keeps you from developing skills. Perhaps ok for a home owner who does not have access to normal carpentry tools. What does this thing cost?

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#10 posted 05-31-2011 10:01 PM

I’ve seen your projects, have a feeling your lying to us about your skill level.

Pretty much exactly what i was thinking.

Seems to me like people use stuff like this so they can say they did it by hand like its some bragging right. Do it how you please and be happy. Just don’t understand why someone would want to take handtools and turn them into inefficient powertools when they are so wonderful for what they already are.

-- The confused powertool using galoot

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#11 posted 06-01-2011 04:45 AM

What Gary said. And yeah, Bertha is lying.

>“A power saw cannot make the same kind of joinery cuts that can be made with a handsaw.”

Yeah, and visa versa. Every tool has a purpose, a usefulness, advantages, and disadvantages. This is but one tool in the toolbox.

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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#12 posted 06-01-2011 12:00 PM

Looks cool. Wonder where I can order it?

-- Grant Laird Jr - Garland, Texas

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#13 posted 06-02-2011 01:45 PM

Here’s a source for this tool, including a saw, from Traditional Woodworker.

-- 温故知新

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