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Forum topic by bigike posted 05-29-2011 04:37 PM 3004 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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bigike

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05-29-2011 04:37 PM

Topic tags/keywords: plane rehab refurbish hand plane

I need some quick info, I have two planes I do in the rehab on. I need to know when you paint them do you prime first like painting cars or do you just lay the paint on the metal? These are record planes so they have to be that certain blue, I have the paint I need to know if I should get primer? I also need to know what is the best way to polish the brasses? I have the metal polish too.
I want to try to get my brasses as shiny as theses,
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I asked this fellow LJer but got no response and I now have the planes in my shop one has rust on it I have to try and sand out and both are getting that flash rust as well on the soles I’ll let the pics do the talkin.

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This one you can see the flash rusting.

Sorry about the pics being so big and not centered but as you all know I’m not a computer expert and it seems as though when I ask for help from the LJers who do know about this stuff I get nothing so like me
you have to deal with it! untill I get some info.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com


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#1 posted 05-29-2011 04:43 PM

I don’t paint. I just use a coat of schallac over the japanning and areas that would be japanned. I belive in the handplane of dreams folks were discussing types of paint and technique.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#2 posted 05-29-2011 05:41 PM

I used a high heat Semi-Gloss Black spray can that I got from HD to do the japanning. I just started laying (NO primer) on the paint every 4-5min (just long enough between coats to NOT run) and did about 6-8 coats, nice and thick. FWIW, I used electrolysis to remove the rust and japanning. I believe that this tends to prevent much of the flash rusting, that is unless you live in a humid jungle.

My Hand Plane Refurb used to be posted in My Projects but was removed by LJs admin. I made a big stink about this and am hoping that tool refurbs will be allowed back into Projects in the future.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#3 posted 05-29-2011 05:46 PM

I’m with Mike and the electrolysis. Thank you for this thread; I hope it doesn’t get deleted like Mike’s did. I’ve got a tester going as we speak;) subscribed.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#4 posted 05-29-2011 05:49 PM

Crap, how rude; when I paint, I use rustoleum hammered grey but people (people meaning plane stars like Philip Marcou, thank you very much) spray with Hammerlite automotive paint, with which I have no experience. Now, I’m like Wayne and leave the chipped japaning in place. I’ve done true Japaning in the oven but it was laborious and like the guys say, the fiance didn’t approve of a dirty plane in her Wolf.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#5 posted 05-29-2011 06:04 PM

Thanks for the info guys, I have all the stuff to do the japaning but there not stanley planes if there was a way for me to change the color of the asphaltum powder to blue I would be all set. I do have the blue paint though and it matches the old paint/japaning perfect. Now I just need the info for the brasses I want them to come out like the ones I have pictured up above.

Thanks HorizontalMike, I never knew that the paint/japaning comes off with the electrolysis processes as well I have to keep that in mind.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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#6 posted 05-29-2011 06:06 PM

Record, Stanley, Millers Falls, and Clifton are synonymous to me, simply different paint schemes;)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#7 posted 05-29-2011 06:11 PM

On the brass you can spin them on a lathe if you have one… Cloth and a little polish.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#8 posted 05-29-2011 06:14 PM

Horizontal,

Yeah! I posted a nice Record block plane I refurbed and it kept getting pulled. What nonsense.

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HorizontalMike

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#9 posted 05-29-2011 06:18 PM

Or, put the the brass screws back on their shafts and then into the drill press and spin them that way.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#10 posted 05-29-2011 10:51 PM

Bigike, quick info:-
If you use Hammerite paint you don’t need undercoat or primer. This can be sprayed or brushed, whichever suits you. You can tint by mixing to get your Record blue if that is essential.
To polish the brass , apart from some chemical process, the quickest way is to wire brush the dirt off using a fine brush such as a brass wheel, then use a buffing wheel with red compound. The adjuster wheel can be more difficult because brushes don’t get into the corner at the rim so you can still mount it on a lathe or drill press and use a scraper to get in there or abrasive paper. Be careful not to wash out the knurling. I also like to use steel wool when items are being spun as this gets quick results that are very close to buffing-use 0000 for a great shine.

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#11 posted 05-29-2011 10:55 PM

^aint’ lumberjocks great?

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#12 posted 05-30-2011 12:06 AM

you said it Bertha.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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#13 posted 05-30-2011 01:16 AM

When using electrolysis, do you put positive or negative voltage on the plane?

-- Joe

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#14 posted 05-30-2011 03:26 AM

Here you go Joe:
http://lumberjocks.com/David/blog/2191

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#15 posted 05-30-2011 03:59 AM

Thanks, Mike. Lot of good information there and on his links. BTW – positive goes to the object being de-rusted.

-- Joe

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