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Forum topic by derosa posted 05-26-2011 10:14 PM 980 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-26-2011 10:14 PM

These were dropped off at my office for me, I’m not certain what they are. The previous owner just said that they haven’t been used in about a hundred years that he knows of.

Obviously they’re older wooden planes, the bigger of the two measures 20×2.75×2.75, the other is similar dimensions but 17” long. The odd thing is that they both have iron soles that are screwed on but there is a secondary iron sole screwed on that only covers half the bottom and isn’t straight across but has a curve to it.
Even more odd is that the blade only goes across half the sole but not just across the raised section. See pic.

The smaller is missing the blade but I picked up a replacement wood bodied plane blade that can be cut down. Also, any recommendations for cleaning them, current plan is a citrus oil and wax mix that I can rub in with 000 steel wool to clean and preserve them with. At this time I haven’t found any makers marks.

I also recieved a plow plane but it is too cracked to be useful, missing the iron and the wedge.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse


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#1 posted 05-26-2011 10:53 PM

I realy don´t know what they have been used for
and its werd to see both the missing escapementmouth and that the iron is only the half wit of the plane
and with an iron bottom I gess its cuold have been used in another trade than woodworking

thank´s for sharing these rare conversation pieces :-)

Dennis

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#2 posted 05-27-2011 12:33 AM

Probably associated with coopering, coachmaking, or some other
antiquated trade.

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#3 posted 05-27-2011 12:43 AM

They may have been made by the guy that used them. Check with Roy Underhill , he should know if anybody does.

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#4 posted 05-27-2011 01:02 AM

They could have been repaired with the metal part being used to close the mouth of the plane. I am guessing a craftsman adjusted them to fit their needs. Think of them as ancestor of Mads (just not as detailed or capable of producing work as high quality as Mads)

Oh, I belive 17” would be a Jack plane and 20” a try plane…

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#5 posted 05-27-2011 04:54 PM

Wayne, although the iron might be a repair the mouth actually ully matches the opening in the wood so it doesn’t really close the wood. Not certain what type of wood it is but it is dense. Two of the screws on one of them snapped off inside the wood and not at the head. I figured I’d pull the soles off to clean them but it may not work too well, the screws are really in there tight and a third has stripped out. Looks like it will be time on the drill press to get these working and looking good.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse

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#6 posted 05-27-2011 05:01 PM

I don’t know what they are, but they’re awesome!
Richard might be right, they don’t look production.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#7 posted 05-28-2011 11:40 AM

I think I have found out what they could have been used for
since the wedge close the mouth so much I think its the same as this plane I saw on the Danish
site of wikipedia …. if so its makining thick shaves on long boards
and those shaves is for weaving baskets with
here is the link to the site scroll down to the last picture in the left corner
that old wooden plane is such a shavingplane look at the wedge in the picture

http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B8vl#Se_ogs.C3.A5

take care
Dennis

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#8 posted 05-28-2011 11:42 AM

that allso give sence to the iron bottom on the planes
do to the heavy work they have done

Dennis

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