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Forum topic by Potlatch posted 04-25-2018 11:36 AM 861 views 0 times favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Potlatch

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04-25-2018 11:36 AM

Hi all, I am new to this website and pretty new to woodworking. I have done some carpentry work, but not what I would consider wood working. I want to buy a table saw to start with. I have cut lumber on a table saw, but never adjusted or fine tuned one. I want to start with a used saw and have been looking on Craigslist at several. I would appreciate any advice that will help me get started. These are the 3 that I am considering:

1 https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/tls/6559691672.html

2 https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/tls/6568277061.html

3 https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/tls/6568277061.html

Hopefully you can open theses links, I am not the most computer literate person either!

Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Dave


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#1 posted 04-25-2018 12:03 PM

2 and 3 are the same listing. I’ve heard mixed reviews about the Ridgid. Once upon a time they were regarded as a fantastic deal. later on, it appears that quality started to slip and I saw many complaints. I have no direct experience with Grizzly (well I did inherit my Dad’s 6 inch jointer, haven’t restored it yet), but I did inherit a Craftsman saw that looks pretty much identical to that Grizzly. Not impressed with the Craftsman. I really didn’t care for that web style on the extension tables. I took a quick look at your area craigslist. I actually own this model saw: https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/tls/d/craftsman-belt-drive-table/6558558627.html

It’s pretty decent, the router table wing comes in handy. I’ve cut 8/4 Hard maple on it. The fence is not perfect, I keep a square handy to make sure it locks down square to the blade. Once locked down, it’s fine. The miter gauge is crap, but they all are. Get an Incra Miter 1000 and/or build a sled.

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#2 posted 04-25-2018 12:11 PM

The two identical Ridgid listing are overpriced by ~$150 mostly due to neglect, $300 would be about right for a saw that was well cared for. If timing won’t allow you to wait any longer, go with the Grizzly.

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#3 posted 04-25-2018 12:15 PM

This saw is more expensive but will outlast your great grandkids with care:
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/tls/d/10-inch-delta-unisaw-table/6552113731.html

-- "Lack of effort will result in failure with amazing predictability" - Me

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#4 posted 04-25-2018 01:24 PM

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#5 posted 04-25-2018 02:59 PM

The Grizzly and Delta are nearly identical and seam fairly priced to me. They could be serviceable to start out with. I’ve never been a big fan of round tube rails for table saw fences but I can’t speak to either of the ones you posted if they are useable or not. If not for another $200+ you could throw a Delta T3 fence on them and have a pretty nice saw for around $450 all-in. Although if you have the budget for the uni that yeti linked to then I’d go with that one hands down, it is in a completely different league…

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#6 posted 04-25-2018 03:05 PM

The Unisaw is way ahead of the contractor saws if your budget will stretch. I would be most interested in the Ridgid TS3650, if you can get it for $250 to $275 it should serve you well. $350 does feel a bit rich for it, but they are usually around $300 near me.

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#7 posted 04-25-2018 04:18 PM

Of the one’s you linked, the Ridgid 3650 would have the most appeal to me. The Griz and Delta are cleaner, but I’m not a fan of those fences.

There are a couple of decent buys on older Craftsman contractor saws in your area. This one is priced fairly and is very similar to the Ridgid. https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/tls/d/craftsman-belt-drive-table/6558558627.html

These are also similar, but have some surface rust, which should clean up well and makes for a good negotiating point. https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/tls/d/craftsman-table-saw/6567886757.html,
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/tls/d/craftsman-table-saw/6566856671.html

This Delta is worth a look IMO, and maybe an offer if it checks out. https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/tls/d/delta-10-contractors-saw/6564694338.html

This basic Jet contractor saw is another contender – https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/tls/d/jet-table-saw/6568721402.html

Here’s the one that’d I’d be most interested in looking at – https://olympic.craigslist.org/tls/d/grizzly-hybrid-table-saw/6568649779.html

That Unisaw looks good and is priced right, but it should really run on 220v. It’s also more than double your budget. https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/tls/d/10-inch-delta-unisaw-table/6552113731.html

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#8 posted 04-25-2018 04:34 PM


That Unisaw looks good and is priced right, but it should really run on 220v. It s also more than double your budget. https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/tls/d/10-inch-delta-unisaw-table/6552113731.html

- knotscott

If you can stretch your budget that far, I’d jump on that Unisaw. Original RI motor, has the dust door, looks clean and that fence isn’t half bad. You could pick up a reproduction goose egg motor cover and it would be like having a brand new saw!

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#9 posted 04-25-2018 05:20 PM

You could pick up a reproduction goose egg motor cover and it would be like having a brand new saw!
- Holt

Or just leave it as is :) Those motor covers were optional items and many Unisaws never had them. In fact, in the early years, you had to drill your own holes if you wanted to mount it on the machine! Later years started pre-drilling the holes for you, but the cover was still optional.

I would also like to see the data plate on that motor – IIRC, they never made a 3hp R/I motor… and even if they did, I doubt it would be able to run on 120v. Could be a case of OWWM rule #1.

Cheers,
Brad

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#10 posted 04-25-2018 06:02 PM



You could pick up a reproduction goose egg motor cover and it would be like having a brand new saw!
- Holt

...
I would also like to see the data plate on that motor – IIRC, they never made a 3hp R/I motor… and even if they did, I doubt it would be able to run on 120v. Could be a case of OWWM rule #1.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

That could explain why they’re running it on 120v.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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CRAIGCLICK

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#11 posted 04-25-2018 06:24 PM

The Delta might be a little overpriced, but it’s a nice saw. I paid 160 bucks for one, but it had an awful fence (not the fence in the photos).

The Grizzly looks pretty good.

If it was my money, I’ve offer 180 for the Delta and see what happens, then spend money on a good fence from Vega or Biesmeier.

-- Somewhere between raising hell and amazing grace.

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CRAIGCLICK

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#12 posted 04-25-2018 06:28 PM

The only thing that worries me about the Grizzly is that it’s almost TOO clean. It looks like the guy fixed it up, and that’s always worrisome.

In the car hobby, if car is selling at a good price, and it looks the way that saw does…I would spend at least 4 hours in, under, and around it before I bought it.

-- Somewhere between raising hell and amazing grace.

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#13 posted 04-25-2018 06:52 PM

The only thing that worries me about the Grizzly is that it s almost TOO clean. It looks like the guy fixed it up, and that s always worrisome.
- CRAIGCLICK

Some people actually clean the machines up before trying to sell them :)

And it’s still overpriced IMO. Around here, $100 contractor saws are the norm… $150 is pushing it.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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CRAIGCLICK

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#14 posted 04-25-2018 07:08 PM



The only thing that worries me about the Grizzly is that it s almost TOO clean. It looks like the guy fixed it up, and that s always worrisome.
- CRAIGCLICK

Some people actually clean the machines up before trying to sell them :)

And it s still overpriced IMO. Around here, $100 contractor saws are the norm… $150 is pushing it.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

That’s more than cleaned…that’s cleaned and painted. The clean doesn’t give me pause…but the paint definitely does. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with it…just saying I’d be very diligent about looking it over.

-- Somewhere between raising hell and amazing grace.

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Potlatch

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#15 posted 04-25-2018 07:29 PM

Thanks everyone for all of the feedback and opinions. As I said, I am new to woodworking, and I plan to retire in the next 2 years. So until I get there, I want to have a saw that I can learn how to set up, maintane and use properly so I think a contractor saw will allow me to do that without a large investment. As I learn to properly use the saw and get closer to retirement I will start looking at cabinet saws such as the Unisaw or the Grizzly GO715P that were suggested. We also plan to put our house on the market in the near future and have a smaller one built, so I am not sure if I will have a workshop or just a large garage to work in. For those reasons I plan to make an offer on the Delta Contractor Saw II, and if I get it to upgrade to a Delta T 3 fence system or similar upgrade. Again thanks!

Dave

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