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Brett

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1146 days ago

I came across an old hand plane recently unlike any I’ve ever seen.

The plane is all metal, with a sole that is a flat rectangle about 15 inches long and 2 inches wide, the toe and heel slightly rounded. There are no sides except two “wings” near the throat. The knob and tote are all metal and appear to be molded as one piece with the sole. The tote has a space between its front and back edges, as if it were made of two skinny totes in tandem that are joined at the top and bottom. The plane iron looks like a Stanley Bailey iron, but there is no cap iron and the lever cap is short with a large screw in the top end.

Maybe this plane is the top of a transitional plane, but it appears to be intended to be used as is, without a wooden body.

I’ll try to post a picture tonight, but in the meantime, does anyone have any idea what the plane I’ve been describing could be?

UPDATED WITH PICTURES (7:29 CDT, May 24):

Here are some (cell-phone-quality) pictures:

-- More tools, fewer machines.


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Dan

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#1 posted 1146 days ago

I have no clue or guess w out seeing the actual picture.. Have you got the plane? If you do have you tried cleaning it yet? A lot of times you will find some kind of markings from the maker.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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Bertha

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#2 posted 1146 days ago

I’ve never seen anything like it; but I really like it. The tote’s got an infill look to it.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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WayneC

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#3 posted 1146 days ago

Looking forward to the photo as well.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Loren

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#4 posted 1146 days ago

Might be a patternmaker’s plane with changeable wood soles for
different profiles. The planes would be fitted with different soles
matched to shaped irons.

Just speculating really. A picture of the actual plane is the
only way to speculate more accurately.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Brett

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#5 posted 1145 days ago

Update with pictures (see first post).

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WayneC

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#6 posted 1145 days ago

It looks like it is used as is without a wood sole. Can you show a photo of the sole of the plane? A view of the mouth would be useful. Looks like a Birmingham Patented 1884 Metal Fore Plane.

http://www.patented-antiques.com/Tools_MiscPlanes.htm

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Loren

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#7 posted 1145 days ago

Oh wow. Interesting.

There are no mounting holes in the sole?

Could it be a blacksmith-made plane for an iron shop sign? You know,
the sort of thing meant to make a silhouette that sits on top of a
beam or sign-post sticking out into the street.

Could be an ice plane.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Barry Heller

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#8 posted 1145 days ago

Go to this site: http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0a.html
or use this e-mail address: leach@supertool.com

The guys name is Patrick Leach. he should be able to answer any question you have about planes.

Good Luck.

-- I grow ever more accomplished at turning a perfectly good piece of wood into sawdust.

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Brett

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#9 posted 1145 days ago

I don’t own the tool (yet). I’m not sure whether it’s worth buying.

Would the plane be worth anything in the condition shown above?

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Loren

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#10 posted 1145 days ago

Almost certainly NO.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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WayneC

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#11 posted 1145 days ago

For one thing, it appears to be broken on the side.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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patron

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#12 posted 1145 days ago

if i found it
i’d get it
probably the only
one you will ever see

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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WayneC

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#13 posted 1145 days ago

here is a another member of it’s family

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-BIRMINGHAM-Bat-Wing-Rabbet-Plane-5-15-16-in-Long-/120729195475?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1c0553d3

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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racerglen

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#14 posted 1145 days ago

I’m with David on this BUY IT ! Unless the price is way way high.. You could probably make your money back reselling and then some.

-- Glen, Vernon B.C. Canada

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Bertha

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#15 posted 1145 days ago

I’d probably buy it, but it doesn’t take much for me. Thanks for posting this interesting plane.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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