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Forum topic by dakremer posted 05-23-2011 09:26 PM 2692 views 1 time favorited 77 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-23-2011 09:26 PM

Topic tags/keywords: woodworking shops

Even though I’ve been on this site for over a year (and probably on it every day…..more than once) I’ve only recently started looking in the Shops tab at the top of the page. I love looking at these shops, giving me ideas for my own shop someday, and just seeing how different people utilize different spaces!

The ease of searching through projects, blogs, and forum topics is really amazing on this site (especially compared to others), however I feel like that ease is not carried over looking in shops section. I find it almost painful to go through them. Except for the page/color scheme, it doesnt really seem to fit in with this website.

I did not start this topic to complain and make a fuss, but rather to maybe call attention to this and possibly make the site even better than what it is….. Also to see if anyone else has noticed this or feels this way?

It seems that so much work went into making the projects, blogs, forums pages really user and search friendly, and then the Shops page took a back seat. I’d love to see the shops page set up differently so its easier to see new shops posted, comments, pictures, etc, etc. I think more people would share and comment on these pages if they were easier to browse through…..

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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#1 posted 05-23-2011 09:35 PM

I agree 100%. I have tried going through the shops page a number of times and just end up frustrated. I understand where they were trying to go with the location and all but it just doesn’t seam to work well in my opinion. The list view is very hard to use as well.

-- Will work for wood...

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#2 posted 05-23-2011 11:31 PM

This is the first time I ever clicked on the Shops tab at the top. It just give locations and you have to figure out which one is where- no name is associated with them at that point. I don’t know what the intentions for that tab is, but I always go to the person’s name and look at their home page and access individual shops from there.
to get them by name, after you click on Shops, click List View and it gives all the people by name and then you click to get to their shop with the pictures. It works for me to go to their name and then look at their shop.

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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#3 posted 05-23-2011 11:32 PM

I agree The shop section needs improvement. But again the project section is the store front with the glass displays just like at the mall.

-- Abbas, Castro Valley, CA

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#4 posted 05-23-2011 11:49 PM

I go to ... that is a lot more useful than the map with the dots.


-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#5 posted 05-24-2011 01:45 AM

I would think that a page with thumbnails similar to projects would be more interesting. I’m not sure I really care where the shop is. But I can usually tell from the first photo if I am interested in viewing the shop in detail.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#6 posted 05-24-2011 01:53 AM

A change like that would be nice to see. FYI, at one time shops had their on tabs similar to the projects tabs but it got lost somewhere in the upgrades.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#7 posted 05-24-2011 02:31 PM

I agree, it is hard to use. Gerry, thanks for the tip on using /list.

-- Tim, Myrtle Beach, Just one more tool, that's all I need! :)

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#8 posted 05-24-2011 02:39 PM

To me, even list view needs improvement. There is no date showing when it was posted, etc. So I never know which ones i’ve seen before… I think that whole section just needs to be improved upon. I’d definitely go there more often.

-- Hey you dang woodchucks, quit chucking my wood!!!!

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#9 posted 05-24-2011 02:56 PM

I agree, the shops to me is the most under-used and hard to navigate pages of the site. I understand the idea of google maps part, but lets face it there have to be a few lumberJERKS mixed in here with us lumberjocks, so I hate to put a map straight to my shop. If you are going to rob me blind you are gonna at least have to find it on your own!

PS LOVE your tag, best commercial ever.

-- StevieP ~ Micheal Tompkins - you were not here on earth long but left a giant mark on us. RIP Brother

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#10 posted 05-24-2011 03:10 PM

The best that I can tell is that newer lumberjocks have their shops on NEWER maps near the front (page #1 vs page #30). Not that that really helps anyone searching for cool shops.

Since we are in the suggesting improvements mode, how about categorizing shops by size something like:

less than 250 sq.ft.
251—500 sq.ft.
501—750 sq.ft.
751—1000 sq.ft.
over 1001 sq.ft.

My thoughts are that this would HELP when searching for shops near the size anyone may be contemplating on building at the time.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#11 posted 05-24-2011 03:26 PM

I agree with HorizontalMike. Categorizing shops in sizes would help. I’ve also thought that LJs should have a contest for the best/messiest/smallest shop. That would be another way to get the shops out there.

Again, not complaining at all, but I have been frustrated with browsing the shops tab.

-- Sam

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#12 posted 05-24-2011 05:44 PM

StevieP is right … I would never post my address … too many whack jobs out there.

I like HorizontalMike’s idea about categorizing shops. Square footage would be one way to do it, but maybe there are other criteria that could be used to search for shops as well (like the keywords in Projects).

This probably sounds petty, and I don’t mean it to be, but one of the things I don’t like about the ‘Shops’ feature is the number of people that use it to either post project pictures, or just post a narrative or list of equipment with no pictures at all.

The truth of the matter is that I think most of us are interested in seeing what someone else has done with their shop space. Perhaps there is some misunderstanding of what the ‘Shops’ feature is for? Maybe the page where you set up your shop info should make it clear that pictures are the number one priority.

As an aside, I have never posted pictures of my shop, so I guess I have no room to criticize (LOL)! The truth is, my shop is sort of proof that you can put 2 ton of fertilizer in a 1 ton truck … you just have know how to stack it! Maybe one of these days, I’ll uncover the machines and move things around to ‘pose’ for pictures.


-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#13 posted 05-24-2011 05:56 PM

You know, dak, I love looking at those shops too. You know that that’s the very first thing that I did when I came here – look at shops. I don’t know how many pages that I went through before I stopped but it was a good many. Some of those shops are wonderful but I really like to look at ‘em all.

-- helluvawreck aka Charles,

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#14 posted 05-24-2011 06:32 PM

I agree with many of the above comments. My method is to go and see the shops of those that have left a comment on my shop page or go and check out shops of LJs that make projects that I find interesting.

I agree with HorizotalMike about categorizing shops by size.
You know Mike, I’ve just come to realized that I have agreed with several of your observations about site improvements. Any chance that Martin would consider you for an administrator position?

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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#15 posted 05-24-2011 07:07 PM

devann, I’m more likely to be invited to leave… ;-)

I like Jerry’s idea on search words/tags. More ideas:

Square Footage
Stick Built / Pier & Beam
Metal Building / Slab
Basement Shop
Converted Garage
Dedicated Shop – the whole enchilada

BTW Jerry, I do NOT post my arsenal’s location [when are not in mobile mode ;-) ] but do let folks know I am here mostly 24/7 being retired and all. This IS TEXAS, after all.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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