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Forum topic by Andre posted 04-19-2018 05:50 AM 818 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Andre

2057 posts in 1947 days


04-19-2018 05:50 AM

Having a hard time deciding if I should buy a new Pax hand saw or to try and find a decent vintage saw?
My sharpening skills definitely need more practice.
Been looking around and in these parts the Pax is the only affordable saw available and Lee Valley extended the free shipping for 2 more days.
Anyone out there have a Pax panel saw?

-- Lifting one end of the plank.


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Jerry

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#1 posted 04-19-2018 06:31 AM

Hey Andre,
Pax is a very nice saw! Vintage Disston saws, well at least vintage Disston back saws, can cost as much or more than a new one, but a panel saw is easier to come by. I have a collection of them. I could send one out to you if you like. You’d need to sharpen it and set the teeth, but there’s great satisfaction to be had doing that. Send me a PM if you want one of these…

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://www.geraldlhunsucker.com/

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Davevand

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#2 posted 04-19-2018 01:21 PM

I had your same dilemma a few years back and bought a set of the Pax saws. The rip saw was fine but the x-cut saw would not cut worth a darn. When I looked at the teeth it looked like they were punched but never sharpened. I ended up having to sharpen the saw to get it usable. I was not the only one with this issue, hopefully their QC has improved.

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waho6o9

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#3 posted 04-19-2018 01:36 PM

http://lumberjocks.com/ErikF

Maybe Erik can make a panel saw for you?

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JADobson

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#4 posted 04-19-2018 02:31 PM

I have a rip and crosscut panel saws from Pax. They work. But I’ve since added a few antique Disston 26” handsaws to my till. Guess which ones I reach for now? Disston every time.

-- No craft is very far from the line beyond which is magic. -- Lord Dunsany — Instagram @grailwoodworks

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gargey

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#5 posted 04-19-2018 02:35 PM

Just get a Bad Axe, they only charge ~$400 or so for a 26” handsaw.

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waho6o9

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#6 posted 04-19-2018 02:43 PM

https://two-lawyers-toolworks.blogspot.com

Here’s a panel saw:

http://www.bearkatwood.com/saws.html

Some fine Bearkat saws as well.

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Andre

2057 posts in 1947 days


#7 posted 04-19-2018 08:29 PM

Thanks for the offer Jerry but I do have a few hand saws already last one was an old 26” that I attempted to sharpen, seems to cut okay. What I am doing at the moment is using a Bahco 16” for most of my rough cut offs, like the size but dislike the plastic handle and do not belief that the razor tooth design would be able to be sharpened?
Was curious about the Pax as Lee Valley has them and they feel pretty comfortable in the hand, was concerned about blade quality and how well they sharpen or stay sharp.
As for all the other suggestion,,,, maybe if I keep buying Lottery tickets?

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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JADobson

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#8 posted 04-19-2018 09:37 PM

The Pax saws work. If that is your budget by all means go for them. I had to stone my rip saw because the set was a bit wonky and it pulled off to the side when cutting but that took no time.

-- No craft is very far from the line beyond which is magic. -- Lord Dunsany — Instagram @grailwoodworks

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Andre

2057 posts in 1947 days


#9 posted 04-20-2018 07:03 PM



The Pax saws work. If that is your budget by all means go for them. I had to stone my rip saw because the set was a bit wonky and it pulled off to the side when cutting but that took no time.

- JADobson

Ny budget is whatever the wife doesn’t find out about, LOL! Just finished my second Gents saw handle conversion, same handle pattern in Walnut but little higher hang angle. stoned this blade and it appears to cut a lot smoother and cleaner that the last one, have to check the tooth count? The Gramercy still cuts nicer! think I am done for awhile on Dovetail saws.

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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ThePeoplesWoodshop

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#10 posted 04-25-2018 11:27 AM

Have you considered trying out japanese hand saws?
here’s a link to one of the better brands you can get here in the US. the price is good and they cut insanely well. takes a minute to get used to a pull saw if you’re used to the push but the truth is that you just get better results. smaller kerf and cleaner cuts.
https://amzn.to/2HLazF1

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Andre

2057 posts in 1947 days


#11 posted 04-26-2018 04:44 AM



Have you considered trying out japanese hand saws?
here s a link to one of the better brands you can get here in the US. the price is good and they cut insanely well. takes a minute to get used to a pull saw if you re used to the push but the truth is that you just get better results. smaller kerf and cleaner cuts.
https://amzn.to/2HLazF1

- ThePeoplesWoodshop

Actually have that saw and used to have the folding version, they do make very nice cuts but I find them a lot slower and not as forgiving when you just want to whack off a chunk of plank? Guess what happened to my folding version?
When cutting small D.T.s, my go to saw is the 28 tpi Dozuki from Lee Valley and actually there D.T. guide system with the pull saws works extremely well.http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/page.aspx?p=41718&cat=1,42884

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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Woodknack

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#12 posted 04-26-2018 07:00 AM

Old or new, they still have to be sharpened at some point. Unless you buy one of the disposable impulse hardened saws but IMO they don’t cut as nicely as a freshly sharpened western saw.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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LumbPete

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#13 posted 04-26-2018 09:06 AM

If you use it for Construction I would og for a cheap New one!

-- https://www.toolsguidance.com/

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Andre

2057 posts in 1947 days


#14 posted 04-26-2018 04:07 PM

I have a couple of new Bahco’s actually cut quite nice but dislike the plastic handles and of course unable to be sharpened! Have a couple of older craftsman saws that I have been thinking about making some new handles for seeing how much I like my re-handled crown gents saws?

LOL! When it comes to construction the saw has a tail and its name is 7.25” Skill! Try to avoid that stuff nowadays!
Went with a Dewalt track saw to break down sheet material, try to avoid that too if possible!

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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