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Matt

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05-19-2011 09:48 PM

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I am building a sofa side table to match my new kitchen cabinets. The cabinets are hickory and the table is hickory. The cabinets we had done are glazed. The trim is poplar with a color matched oil wiping stain which is what I have leftover.

The sample I am holding is hickory scrap sanded, shellaced, then stained. The color is not matching. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong? Should I try to get another stain?
Thanks for your input.


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Loren

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#1 posted 05-19-2011 09:59 PM

Stain won’t do what you want. You’ll have to experiment
with aniline dyes. They can be applied directly to the wood
or dissolved in some finishes and sprayed.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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rhett

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#2 posted 05-20-2011 12:20 AM

This is why I quit doing any jobs that require color matching.

This is most likely a tinted spray ontop of a base color then glaze. Most manufactured cabinets that are that deep a color will have had a sprayed on toner to even out all the random colors/sapwood of the species they are using. They use their own color blends so finding a match at the local store will be a crap shoot.

-- It's only wood.

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Matt

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#3 posted 05-20-2011 03:47 AM

Thanks for the help. Both suggestions pushed me in the right direction with my research. I am going to use a dye based stain then a glaze on top of that, then topcoat varnish. I will work with multiple samples before I start in on the project.
Thanks for the help!

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Lee Barker

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#4 posted 05-20-2011 05:55 AM

This ought to take a lot of pressure off: why match a sofa table with a kitchen?

Make it your own colors that you like and that work in that room.

If you try to match, and fail—which is a better than 50-50 possibility—every time you walk by the furshlugginer table it will whisper”loser” to you.

Go for the win. Do it to suit you and the wood. Make it beautiful. Make yourself proud of your individuality and creativity.

Freedom!

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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Sawkerf

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#5 posted 05-20-2011 06:05 AM

Try a piece with stain before the shellac. I think that the shellac sealed the wood and the stain couldn’t penetrate.

The cabinet looks like what my finish guy calls “Kona Coffee”. We’ve done a few projects with it and it’s gorgeous – but not easy to do.

-- Adversity doesn't build character...................it reveals it.

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Steven H

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#6 posted 05-20-2011 05:04 PM

Having taking color mixing classes, will help. But Its a skill that doesn’t take 1 days to learn. People who can match a color in just 5 minutes spend hours and hours doing it.

You would need to experiment with colors.

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Matt

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#7 posted 05-20-2011 06:06 PM

I am not looking to match the color perfectly, even if thats what the wife wants, but I am looking to get close and achieve the depth that the glaze did on the cabinets. I also am in contact with the company that custom made the cabinets to see if they can tell me how they did it.
Thanks for all the input, I will post what I come up with.

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