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Forum topic by jerkylips posted 05-18-2011 11:38 PM 2204 views 0 times favorited 39 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-18-2011 11:38 PM

I posted a question the other day about a Ridgid table saw – the TS3612 that I thought I could get for $250. It appears someone else beat me to it. I actually found another on craigslist locally & looked at it today. This one is a Ridgid TS3650. There is a little rust on the top but otherwise seems to be in very good condition. The guy wants $350 & said he’s not very flexible on price because he really doesn’t want to sell it but his wife wants it out of the garage… oh boy.. Anyway, I wasn’t ready to talk price but I’m guessing the absolute best I could do is $300.

I called the local HD & spoke with a manager. She confirmed that she would take a 20% off coupon from Harbor Freight on a table saw. I’m looking at the R4512, which is $499. After the 20% off, it would be $400. I think that it makes sense to get the brand new one for an extra $100.

I’d like to decide ASAP before the 3650 is sold & I don’t have that option. What does everyone think?


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#1 posted 05-18-2011 11:50 PM

What is the difference in the saws? (I’m not familiar with the rigid saws in detail)

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#2 posted 05-18-2011 11:57 PM

I’d get the 4512 for that price. The 3650 has cast iron wings as well as the core table. The 4512 has a core table and steel wings, which is fine for me at that price. The big thing for me is that the 4512 has the motor enclosed like a cabinet saw and has a dust port. Having the motor on the outside of the saw like the 3650, should make it a little more noisier.

How did you get the 20% off coupon? Harbor Freight?

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#3 posted 05-19-2011 12:00 AM

Doesn’t the 4512 have the granite top? I have read some reviews that it wasn’t that great. Am I wrong on that?

Domer

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#4 posted 05-19-2011 12:05 AM

The 3650 warranty only applies to the original owner. The 3612 that I REALLY wanted is lifetime, regardless of owner. Between the two I’m leaning 4512. It’s more than I want to spend, but I also don’t want to troll craigslist forever just waiting for a deal.

And yes, the coupon is from harbor freight. They’re usually in the weekly ad, & also available on their site. I did a search for “harbor freight 20% coupon printable” & found it right away.

The 4512 has a cast iron top, not granite. The previous, I think 4510, had a granite top. The extensions are stamped steel vs. cast iron. That’s one thing that the 3650 has in its favor..

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#5 posted 05-19-2011 12:24 AM

I’m getting the 4512 when Ridgid products go on sale at HD. I can’t find that coupon for the saw anywhere on Harbor Freights website. Can you post the link on here?

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#6 posted 05-19-2011 12:31 AM

I have a 3650 and wouldn’t trade is for anything less than a cabinet saw. It does everything I want it to do, never gives me any trouble. Several of us here at LJ’s have this saw and like it…..

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#7 posted 05-19-2011 12:33 AM

The granite saw was R4511. It, otherwise, looked like the R4512, but there was a major functional difference. The R4511 is now discontinued, but since its top was granite, the trunion was cabinet mounted which was a good thing to have. The R4512, cast table and steel wings, is virtually the same saw that is sold by Sears as their model 21833, and they have table mounted trunions. The Sears model claims to be 1.75 hp and is a 15 amp motor, while the Ridgid model is 13 amps. The two saws look exactly identical, except for the paint scheme of course.

Some folks claim to have had alignment problems with the Sears 21833 / Ridgid R4512. You can read reviews on here. http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/2020
I have had the Sears machine, since May/June of 2010, and I love it; never had an alignment problem other than operator error. I got my saw last year for $409; on sale for father’s day.

I will say the mechanism for raising and tilting the blade, although it works smoothly, looks a little rough and appears to be light weight compared to a true cabinet saw, like a Grizzly, Delta, PM, Saw Stop, etc. BUT, what do you expect when comparing a $500 machine to a $3000 machine.

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#8 posted 05-19-2011 12:34 AM

I’d buy new if the we’re only talking an extra $50-100. If you are dissatisfied with the new tool, it can be taken back for a refund. If you are dissatisfied with the used tool- you’re stuck.

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#9 posted 05-19-2011 12:55 AM

I’m with Gary.
You would have to pry my cold, dead hands from my 3650 to give it up. (Unless you want to trade even for a Felder K500) ):-)

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#10 posted 05-19-2011 01:13 AM

Neither saw seems to be clearly superior in every way to the other, so you should base this decision on what’s most important to you. There are pros and cons to each, and both saws are capable of good performance with good alignment and good blade selection.

$400 for the R4512 is an excellent price, and gives you the basis of a good hybrid saw with more modern design and riving knife that’s fully supported by HD’s return policy and Ridgid’s warranty….things like the steel wings can be upgraded later on by any 27” cast iron TS wing you can find if you want to. The 3650 is well proven older style contractor saw (outboard motor) with cast iron wings, and good rip capacity….it might be worth $350 if it’s mint (the rust on top suggests it’s not), but that price is pushing it’s resale value to the limit (IMHO), so I’d guess you’d have trouble reselling it for what you paid. If you find there’s a problem, you’re on your own to fix it.

Which scenario are you most comfortable with?

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#11 posted 05-19-2011 01:35 AM

I think i paid $350 for my 3650 saw new from Home Depot… I love it, but I wouldn’t pay full price for a used saw.

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#12 posted 05-19-2011 02:01 AM

I have a reconditioned ts 3650, it has served me well for about 4yr. I only paid $300 for it, so $350 sounds high to me for used. I think it has been more positevly reviewed vs newer model. $200-$250 would be a good target price.

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#13 posted 05-19-2011 02:49 AM

I responded to your last post, we have both the 4511 and 3650 and the 3650 is a better saw. I personally feel the 4511 is better then the 4512 because the 4511 has cabinet mounted trunnions and the stamped steel wings on the 4512 grades it lower. So i am confident the 3650 is a better saw then the 4512. The 4512 will however have two advantages with dust collection and also when working with outfeed table the 4512 will be easier to set the blade at 45 degree. The motor is in a bad place when working with outfeed tables on the 3650 when moving to 45 degree cut.

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#14 posted 05-19-2011 03:38 AM

Jerry – Can you describe in more detail what you feel is better about the 3650? I assume the fence to be one aspect, but I’d have thought that the mass of the R4511 would give it noticeably more stability, the riving knife, the internally housed motor, the larger handwheels, and the cab mounted trunnions would all have some advantages over the 3650.

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#15 posted 05-19-2011 04:06 PM

thanks for all of the feedback, I appreciate it. As I thought about it more, I’m not sure i think that the 3650 was in great shape. The top was rusty & it didn’t seem as stable as it should be. The guy said something about a bolt missing on the base, but it made me wonder WHY he didn’t replace it if he knew about it, & what else he “let slide”. If it was $250 I’d be more ok with putting some work into it but not at that price.

I have the email address, I may check in next week after the rummage sale is over. If it hadn’t sold, he may be more flexible on price..

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