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wncguy

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03-26-2018 05:51 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question walnut cherry mahogany milling

I’ve seen some info on tracing the image/drawing to wood by using black carbon paper.
I’ve also found that there is white carbon type paper. But most references seem to be using it on fabric.
I’m thinking this might be something good me to use on walnut.
Has anyone tried it & if so any “brand” that seems to work for you.

Thanks!

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#1 posted 03-26-2018 06:16 PM

i do this all the time just normal carbon paper, u may want to trace it a couple times on walnut so u can see it, if you are going to cut it out you may want to go over it with a sharpie.

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#2 posted 03-26-2018 06:48 PM

What’s the final look you’re going for? Photo on wood? Just to transfer tracing?

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#3 posted 03-26-2018 07:11 PM

Here is a YouTube video I downloaded a year ago and how me and the vets do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lTh4JJyZtA

and I just seen this on Youtube but have not watched it yet but looks very interestiin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7FKdW5ndLw

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#4 posted 03-26-2018 07:30 PM



Here is a YouTube video I downloaded a year ago and how me and the vets do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lTh4JJyZtA

and I just seen this on Youtube but have not watched it yet but looks very interestiin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7FKdW5ndLw

- Arlin Eastman

+1 on using the wax paper from mailing label backing to transfer images to wood. I’ve used it several times and it works really really well.

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#5 posted 03-26-2018 07:33 PM

WNC – what you have probably seen is Saral Transfer Paper.
artists and signmakers use it as it is not “wax” carbon paper and can be painted over.
it is commonly called graphite tracing paper and comes in several colors
in sheets or rolls. it is carried in most craft stores, wal-mart, etc as well as online.
https://www.dickblick.com/products/saral-wax-free-transfer-paper/ is the source that I use.
it will work quite well on any wood for tracing lines to be cut or routed.
this is NOT a photo release paper.

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wncguy

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#6 posted 03-26-2018 08:17 PM

Uncle Buck – I will try the normal carbon paper (especially on the maple & cherry), but don’t think it will show very well on the dark woods & it’d be nice not to have to go over them again.
YesHaveSome – I should have been more clear… Just want to transfer tracings of cut lines for boxes & drawers
Arlin & Rayne -the video & photos sure show great methods for transferring images, but I don’t want to “contaminate” the wood for my boxes since I’ll be putting other finishes on them. It’s a little overkill for what I need.
John – think that is what I’m looking for. I avoid craft stores but we have a big one in our area… wife will be happy to go there with me.
Thanks all.

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wncguy

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#7 posted 03-27-2018 02:40 PM

John – I found the “sample” pack on-line at WalMart. 15 sheets, 3 of each color. So I ordered for in store pick up & will try them out. Thanks for the lead.

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#8 posted 03-27-2018 02:49 PM

If you are doing this to cut out parts, rather than tracing, just lightly spray some removable adhesive to the back of the paper and paste down to the wood. Cut the design out, then peel the paper off. A little alcohol or acetone will help if the paper sticks too much.

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wncguy

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#9 posted 03-27-2018 04:35 PM

Planeman – Thanks for your suggestion. I have tried the approach to adhering the paper directly on the wood & used the 3M spray adhesive.

I probably wasn’t doing something right but more often than not I was frustrated getting the paper & residue off the wood. So I went back to drawing my designs directly on the wood.

After this trial, I may just have to continue that approach. But since I have several “standard” components such as the drawers, would be nice not to have to draw each one every time.

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#10 posted 03-27-2018 05:25 PM

WNC and Planeman – I saw the guy on TV that does scroll saw projects and he puts down
the common vinyl drawer/shelf liner that has the adhesive backing
then glues the paper pattern to that – the shelf paper does not
leave any residue when removed. (or so he says).
would be at least worth a try if you have some on hand.

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#11 posted 03-27-2018 05:38 PM

Planeman – Thanks for your suggestion. I have tried the approach to adhering the paper directly on the wood & used the 3M spray adhesive.

I probably wasn t doing something right but more often than not I was frustrated getting the paper & residue off the wood. So I went back to drawing my designs directly on the wood
- wncguy

I use the 3M spray stuff to attach patterns for scroll saw work on an almost daily basis. They are super easy to remove – wipe it down good with mineral spirits making sure you saturate the paper well, wait a minute or two for it to do it’s work, and then it will almost fall off by itself.

Cheers,
Brad

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wncguy

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#12 posted 03-27-2018 07:07 PM

John – we must have some of that in the house… if so I will put some on wood & see how it comes off & any residue.

Brad – Do the mineral spirits have any impact on putting on finishes or gluing the wood?

Thanks guys

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#13 posted 03-27-2018 08:38 PM

Brad – Do the mineral spirits have any impact on putting on finishes or gluing the wood?
- wncguy

Absolutely none whatsoever…

Cheers,
Brad

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#14 posted 03-27-2018 11:36 PM

There is another option if you have access to a laser jet printer or photocopier and you don’t mind toxic chemicals. You can print or photocopy an image, place it on the wood, image side down, and wet the paper with lacquer thinner. The lacquer thinner causes some of the pigment to stick to the wood.

An ink jet printer won’t work.

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#15 posted 03-27-2018 11:38 PM

There is another option if you have access to a laser jet printer or photocopier and you don t mind toxic chemicals. You can print or photocopy an image, place it on the wood, image side down, and wet the paper with lacquer thinner. The lacquer thinner causes some of the pigment to stick to the wood. An ink jet printer won t work.

- yvrdennis

Or just do a heat transfer – no chemicals involved.

Cheers,
Brad

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