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Douglas Bordner

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05-07-2011 06:40 PM

I have decided to get a new handplane and have narrowed it down to a Veritas Low-Angle smooth plane, or a Low-Angle Jack. Smallish box-making is my primary woodworking balliwick, and I have two #4-ish refurbs (Stanley Bailey and Sargent), a Sargent 4½-clone and a relatively un-tuned type 14 Stanley #5.
I want this new one to do shooting work, as well as being available for standard endgrain work and initial smoothing/trimming. Probably will not camber the iron unless I buy a back-up.
Your thoughts, experiences and opinions welcomed.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.


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#1 posted 05-07-2011 06:52 PM

Buy the Jack and get two blades. Sharpen one for smoothing and one for more course work…. If your going to use it for shooting you will want the extra mass as compared to the smoother.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#2 posted 05-07-2011 06:55 PM

I’m looking at the #5 for a shooting board. You might want to get 2 blades anyway to have different angles. I’m not sure how much use you would get out of a #4 if you already have a low angle block plane. It seems like most end grain tasks can be done with a block plane or you could skip to the jack.

Tim

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Douglas Bordner

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#3 posted 05-07-2011 07:04 PM

I do have a Stanley low-angle block with a Veritas iron. Good call TJU.
Thanks Wayne, I was hoping you were out there today. =D

I can almost smell that new-plane smell…I have been drawing this out for several years.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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#4 posted 05-07-2011 07:11 PM

On a Shooting board, the Veritas Jack would be great. If I was going to use your #5 for shooting I would think about getting a new blade/chipbreaker. Perhaps a #2 or #3 for smoothing would be something else to consider. I would see how they fit your hands.

Oh and since your in a plane buying mood, get a Record 43 to make some nice groves in those boxes. You can get some tool steel and make a set of shorter rods….

With a block plane to show size

Record 043 with LN LA block plane

Front View

Record 043 Front

Oh and this is my scrubby 043, I only have ebay photos of my nicer one.

Record 043 Left

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#5 posted 05-07-2011 07:14 PM

I have a low angle jack from Lie-Nielsen and honestly I don’t use it
much and I don’t think it does a better job on endgrain compared
with a standard pitch plane of similar mass.

Low angle plane irons also catch and tear up reversing grain on long
grain surfaces. You can resharpen them to emulate a standard-pitch
cut which allows the plane to make a smaller chip on wiley grain.

The low angle plane works pretty well on plywood where I’m planing
long and end grain at the same time, making a better edge than
a standard plane but still requiring filling and sanding, usually.

This is all my opinion of course.

All in all, I’m underwhelmed by the idea of switching out two irons on
a low angle plane to go from standard to low pitch. A standard Bailey
pattern #5 can actually do very, very fine work if you know how to
sharpen the iron well.

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#6 posted 05-09-2011 03:51 PM

Did you come to a decision?

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#7 posted 05-09-2011 04:40 PM

I have the LAJ from LV and its my go-to plane.

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#8 posted 05-09-2011 04:52 PM

Doug

I have both a LV low angle jack and a Lie Nielson 5 1/2 smoth plane. The Veritas plane is nearly always my first choice and I like the flexibility of having several irons all ground to different angles – it is first rate on the shooting board with the low angle iron as well. If I had it to do over I would forgo the Lie Nielson, although it is an excellent tool it is redundant now.

Don

-- DonH Orleans Ontario

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Douglas Bordner

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#9 posted 05-10-2011 02:38 PM

Low angle jack it is. Thanks Guys!

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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#10 posted 05-11-2011 04:34 AM

It’s on it’s way now, with an A2 iron.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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#11 posted 05-11-2011 04:38 AM

Sweet. Looking forward to seeing some projects where you put it to use.

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#12 posted 05-11-2011 05:07 AM

Did you take out a 15-year or 30-year mortgage? :-)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#13 posted 05-11-2011 10:39 AM

Mortgage shmortgage Charlie. No need to do that when you have children to sell. :)

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#14 posted 05-11-2011 02:47 PM

Mr. Marshall, I cowed the wife into splitting MY tax refund. Why hell, I can even afford a brake job on my truck too.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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#15 posted 05-11-2011 03:23 PM

Nothing like a woman who will occasionally allow you to spend a little of your own money!

Personally, the only reason I get any tools is that we both work, and maintain separate checkbooks. :-)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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