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brantley

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05-06-2011 05:55 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question fence stain waterproof paint

I just finished building a fence at my house and i was wondering what is the best way to protect it from the elements? Ive seen fences with stain, some with paint, some with water seal. Whats going hold up the best.


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Steven H

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#1 posted 05-06-2011 08:51 PM

No finish is best for exterior. BECAUSE THEY JUST DONT LAST.
You can paint it if you wanted it or stain w/ spar finish.

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#2 posted 05-06-2011 09:16 PM

what about cabots or thompsons water sealer applied every year?

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Steven H

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#3 posted 05-06-2011 09:31 PM

Cabot stains are okay to use.
But I Try to avoid DIY products.
Go to your local paint store.

You can just use a marine varnish ( it has amber color) as long as you mainted it very year.

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Earlextech

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#4 posted 05-06-2011 11:07 PM

If you’re trying to keep it natural then Thompson’s is the easiest. Recoat once a year.

-- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "finished"!

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brantley

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#5 posted 05-06-2011 11:18 PM

Natural or a different look, doesnt really matter to the wife. She likes either way. We are just more concerned with durability!

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#6 posted 05-06-2011 11:34 PM

I just tried some solid color stain on my latest project. It was made by Behr and has a 10 yr warranty.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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#7 posted 05-07-2011 01:41 AM

I like my fence painted because Im too lazy to maintain it every year. High quality Paint will last at least 6 years or less.

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#8 posted 05-08-2011 05:33 AM

In my experience with redwood decks,Thompsons is totally useless! My daughter used Olympic deck stain on her new fencing.It has a 5 year warranty on vertical surfaces according to their label.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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David Grimes

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#9 posted 05-08-2011 06:11 AM

Hey, Brantley

You didn’t say what your fence is made of… whether treated or redwood, etc.

If it’s treated, my advice is do nothing for 6 months. Let it dry out.

Yes, you can Thompsons or other like that, but it will require application more often (at least every two years).

The translucent pigmented stains have less solids than the opaques, but I have used both with good results.

However, if you really want a solid color fence you can get many years out of, prime first with an exterior oil-based primer. It dries really fast and can easily be sprayed, rolled or brushed depending on your circumstances. Then, paint the finish coat with a high quality gloss exterior acrylic enamel. We use the Sherwin Williams Super Paint with great results. It’s higher priced, but has a lifetime warranty (materials only) and it covers in one coat really really well. I’m sure Porter, Ben Moore, Behr , ICI Dulux (Glidden) and some of the others have some good product, but I can only recommend what i know has worked for us on houses, trim, decks, railing, fences, sheds, etc.

If you stay on top of it (check annually) and do paint a finish coat when it needs it in 10 or 15 years (instead of letting it go and letting the finish fail and damage the wood before you do anything) you will have a perpetually good looking fence. Most exterior rot and repair is a result of poor inspection and maintenance.

DG

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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allmyfingers

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#10 posted 05-08-2011 09:41 PM

all exterior wood products need to be maintained 1 or 2 years depending on conditions. stain is easier to reapply, paint next and varnish a real PIA. i prefer a quality primer and then a quality paint. primer makes all the difference. don’t fall for the behr 2/1 it is junk.

-- I cut it 3 times and it was still too short?!?

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Grandpa

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#11 posted 05-09-2011 04:45 AM

I want to say David is on top of this deal about timing. I usually tell people you should always paint a home before you think it needs it. You will never be sorry.

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#12 posted 05-09-2011 05:26 AM

I agree with the above statement about going to the paint store vs local big box store. Sherwin Williams makes a great stain for decks and fences called DeckScapes. It’s a little on the expensive side, and is opaque but is well worth it. They also make some great stains that will be more clear.

It is best to look for something with UV protection. Just know that whatever you use, nothing lasts forever. Keep the sprinklers off the fence and it will last much longer.

-- Sam

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brantley

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#13 posted 05-09-2011 07:30 PM

David…the lumber is PT pine. The pickets are dog eared fencing from HD. Pine as well.

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brantley

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#14 posted 05-10-2011 03:05 PM

I went to HD and the Behr Weatherproofing stainable finish is 140 bucks for 5 gallons! Ive got a good bit of fence to treat , just wondering if there are any other quality products out there that may be a little cheaper?

Has anybody used any products similar to the Behr Weatherproofing finish? Or the actual Behr product?

My main thought or concern is even if i treat the fence every few years how long can i expect the fence to hold up? Im hoping 20+ years,,, is that a stretch?

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Steven H

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#15 posted 05-10-2011 05:13 PM

Brantley

please stop wasting time at HD or lowes

Go to Sherman William or Benjamin Moore and ask there.

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