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Forum topic by Ted78 posted 03-22-2018 05:31 PM 498 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Ted78

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03-22-2018 05:31 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question plane refurbishing

I’ve run across some 1/4-24 thread on at least two different old planes. None of the hardware stores around here seem to have bolts or nuts that size. snapped. A little cast iron Stanley 78 I think with a missing screw a few years ago but then I dropped it anyway and forgot about it. Now on a older? transitional plane. snapped off the long bolt that holds the tote onto the irong cast iron casting that screws onto the wooden plane body. I was going to thread the end of another rod to replace it and realized it was that same 1/4-24 size and I don’t have a die that size, but I don’t really want spend 30 40 bucks on a die I’ll use once to fix a $5 dollar thrift store find.

I see you can order dies online this size but really I just want to buy a long bolt. Any ideas?

-- Ted


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#1 posted 03-22-2018 05:52 PM

Ted – try some motorcycle and ATV shops in your area.

https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/fab-parts/hardware-fasteners/shopby/1_4_24.html

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#2 posted 03-22-2018 05:57 PM

Thank you John Smith, I’ll try that. I never would have thought to check out motorcycle shops.

-- Ted

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#3 posted 03-22-2018 06:01 PM

Give these guys a shot. If they don’t carry it, it doesn’t exist. They have a location in Lincoln, NE.

https://www.fastenal.com/

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#4 posted 03-22-2018 06:42 PM

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/133378
there was another discussion about the actual thread size on these planes on LJ a couple of years ago. I had verified the thread on all six of my Sheltons, another member measured all of his and got a totally different answer. I knew his methods to be as verifiable as mine, so we both sorta agreed to disagree.

Don’t forget there is also a 12-24 thread which is ever so slightly different from a 1/4-24.

Anyway, the Shelton #4-size planes like yours do not show the brand name, but the #5s all clearly said Shelton on the toe.

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#5 posted 03-22-2018 06:56 PM

http://lumberjocks.com/WayneC/blog/38068

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#6 posted 03-22-2018 07:55 PM

I have a feeling it’s a #12-24 thread. I have had good success just chasing the existing threads with a 1/4-20 tap and using 1/4-20 threaded rod or screws. YMMV of course.

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#7 posted 03-23-2018 02:20 AM

Here’s some more, albeit confusing, info on Shelton Planes.

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/209378

Re-tapping a #12 hole with a 1/4-20 tap will work, but eventually will work its way loose unless you use epoxy or liquid steel to keep it from wriggling apart through normal use.

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