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Forum topic by jeth posted 05-04-2011 10:15 PM 1318 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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jeth

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05-04-2011 10:15 PM

This may seem like a lot to ask, but just putting the feelers out to see if there are any lumberjocks located close to the Mexican border who might be persuaded to lend me a gigantic helping hand.

I’m trying to get my workshop together here but the market is restricted to low quality overpriced tools and I am frustrated with the limitations of my workshop and the inaccesability of tools here compared to north oft he border.

As an example, a 17” Grizzly bandsaw with frieght inc. weighs in at $889, the closest equivalent here is around 24,000 pesos , roughly $2100 USD, and that’s not a product from a known or reliable brand.

The point is this, would anyone up there be interested in having some tools shipped to them, likely from Grizzly and transporting them over the border, where I could meet them and then take care of transporting the stuff the length of the country to my location? I’ve checked out freight forwarders and costs are crazy but this could make it possible for me to enable my workshop.

I would be prepared to pay costs and something for the trouble.

If anyone might be able to help, let me know here or via Pm, many thanks…


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Richard

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#1 posted 05-05-2011 12:29 AM

I am not located there myself, but might there not be issues with import exports rules?

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#2 posted 05-05-2011 01:09 AM

I would think that there would be significant import duties to be paid. I understand that those rates have gone up quite a bit recently. Especially since big tools would probably be considered to be for commercial use by La Aduana. Then then all of those checkpoints as you traverse the country.

Just some thoughts that popped into my head.

-- Best regards, Jack -- I may not be good, but I'm slow -- www.BarnhillWoodworks.com

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#3 posted 05-05-2011 02:44 AM

I’m six miles from Mexico…and right now that’s way too close. Bad stuff goin’ on over there.
I would not even attempt to take anything south…’round here the Mexican Army is set up at the south end of all the bridges…and they ain’t the sharpest knives in the drawer.

-- One of these hammers oughta fix that...

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#4 posted 05-05-2011 04:56 AM

I sold a moulder to a cabinetmaker who has a shop in Mexico. I didn’t
get the impression he was expecting to pay duties to bring it across.

I think he lives in the states, but has his shop across the border.

Anyway, there’s a lot of secondhand equipment for sale in L.A. with
shops closing all over the place. Unless you have to buy with credit
cards it might be a better option to buy used.

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#5 posted 05-05-2011 05:27 AM

It depends on where in Mexico you are. I have family in Guadalajara, we travel on and off, but with the cartels it has been off lately…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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#6 posted 05-05-2011 04:11 PM

I recently posted a bench-on-a-bench project using ordinary pipe clamps instead of vises, and a LJ from Mexico was delighted with the idea, saying that getting a suitable vise would have been nigh impossible for him. I’ll ask a co-worker of mine who owns a machine shop in Mexico, about problems importing tools and machinery. He has commented in the past about sourcing out basic things.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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jeth

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#7 posted 05-05-2011 08:25 PM

Thanks for all replies.

Interesting to see the general consensus regarding potential difficulties/dangers involved. I had found information to the contrary, that tax is very rarely charged on small shipments of goods in non trade vehicles. I am also no stranger to the border tension as i live on the other border, close to Guatemala where many central and south americans are literally dying trying to make their way to the good ol’ USA.

I was looking at buying new goods as I wouldn’t be able to check any second hand stuff over and at least there is a possibility of obtaining parts in the future if necessary. I am an english citizen but I belive I would still need a visa to actually enter into the US, so I was hoping to meet be able to collect the goods this side of the border and transport them down to my location.

As for those guys who are already bringing stuff down here for resale, the problem is that they are taking advantage of the limited availability and high cost of tools here, so resale prices are high. If you guys can get a used table saw on craigs list for $500 us then that same used saw is going to get sold on here for close to $2000 us.

Maybe it’s too complicated and I’ll have to buy some re-brand chinese rubbish at twice the price of grizzly… :(

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#8 posted 05-05-2011 08:47 PM

Here’s a thought. Contact Grizzly directly, and see if they would be willing to arrange shipping to wherever in Mexico you are…. Heck if there is a market there, see if you can work some sort of franchise arrangement with them…

I know Fender Guitar uses Grizzly in their shops, and they produce a lot of their instruments in Mexico. They have to get those tools there somehow…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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jeth

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#9 posted 05-05-2011 09:44 PM

db, information on the Grizzly site states that shipping to international destinations has to be arranged through a freight forwarding company. I’ve looked into this and for the simple operation of getting the goods over the border once delivered to the freight forwarders depot costs around 800 us for one item ,a little more for each additional item. They can’t ven get the goods to my location, closest would eb to the next state, a good 12 hours drive from here.
I imagine a company like fender have their own freight forwarding operation or can afford to pay extra to get decent tools over here, on larger orders it would still be more economical than buying second rate stuff in the national market.

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#10 posted 05-05-2011 10:04 PM

This is a dose of gratitude that I needed. The only thing keeping me from any tool I can imagine is money. I guess I shouldn’t complain.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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jeth

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#11 posted 05-05-2011 10:40 PM

Thanks for the empathy Bertha, at the end of the day it always comes down to the money, if i had enough of it I could just fly into the states, fill a truck with goodies and drive them back myself… but as you can probably imagine, money is not so easy to make down here, try $4.40 usd as a minimum DAILY wage and prices of most goods higher than north of the border, I suppose tortilla and beans are still fairly cheap…

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#12 posted 05-06-2011 01:29 AM

Have you checked out woodgears?
http://woodgears.ca/tools.html
and
http://woodgears.ca/reader/index.html

-- Scott Smith, Southern Illinois

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