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walkingscar

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03-20-2018 12:44 AM

cheers all,

i build small boxes and my finish of choice is lacquer. however i have to use so many coats to get a good finish because it soaks into the wood. is there any finish i could use under the lacquer to seal the wood resulting in fewer coats of lacquer.

walkingscar


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AlaskaGuy

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#1 posted 03-20-2018 04:06 AM

Are you using rattle can lacquer?

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Rich

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#2 posted 03-20-2018 04:30 AM

Like AlaskaGuy suggests, the amount of solids varies in different lacquer products. There are some high solid lacquers sold in aerosol cans too.

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William Shelley

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#3 posted 03-20-2018 05:35 AM

The “Brushing Lacquer” is a lot thicker, in my experience, and covers better.

-- Woodworking from an engineer's perspective

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walkingscar

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#4 posted 03-20-2018 07:34 AM

i use spray lacquer but i do have some brush on. i will try that as a first coat and see how it works. where can i get high solid spray lacquer?? thanks for your replies.

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Rich

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#5 posted 03-20-2018 09:48 AM


i use spray lacquer but i do have some brush on. i will try that as a first coat and see how it works. where can i get high solid spray lacquer?? thanks for your replies.

- walkingscar

http://magicwoodrepair.com/items/aerosol-clear-finishes/pre-catalyzed~clear-/pre-cat-high-solids-satin-35-sh-m102-0335-detail.htm

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OSU55

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#6 posted 03-20-2018 12:18 PM

Perhaps a blotch control method would work. Read here. Only if you dont color the wood. The glue size or thinned wb finish will raise the grain and require a light sanding. Properly wiped off either will not interfere with the lacquer.

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#7 posted 03-20-2018 01:05 PM

I also make many small boxes. Mine are made of cedar, which is a soft wood and absorbs finish a lot. I gave up on using lacquer and now I apply one coat of shellac, I wipe it on. I then sand it smooth with my orbital sander using 180 grit. I then apply two coats of wipe on poly sanding between coats only if necessary. Shellac will also work under lacquer.

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#8 posted 03-20-2018 01:34 PM



I also make many small boxes. Mine are made of cedar, which is a soft wood and absorbs finish a lot. I gave up on using lacquer and now I apply one coat of shellac, I wipe it on. I then sand it smooth with my orbital sander using 180 grit. I then apply two coats of wipe on poly sanding between coats only if necessary. Shellac will also work under lacquer.

- Jim Finn

Is that the de-waxed sanding sealer shellac or just regular shellac? I’ve always been afraid of putting anything over the regular shellac since I figure the wax in it would prevent a good bond.

-- Tony, SW Chicago Suburbs

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William Shelley

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#9 posted 03-20-2018 01:50 PM


I also make many small boxes. Mine are made of cedar, which is a soft wood and absorbs finish a lot. I gave up on using lacquer and now I apply one coat of shellac, I wipe it on. I then sand it smooth with my orbital sander using 180 grit. I then apply two coats of wipe on poly sanding between coats only if necessary. Shellac will also work under lacquer.

- Jim Finn

Is that the de-waxed sanding sealer shellac or just regular shellac? I ve always been afraid of putting anything over the regular shellac since I figure the wax in it would prevent a good bond.

- Tony1212

You are correct, the wax will cause problems for some finishes. But de-waxed shellac is fine. It’s sold by Zinsser as “SealCoat” in a pre-mixed variety.

-- Woodworking from an engineer's perspective

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Jim Finn

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#10 posted 03-20-2018 03:51 PM

I just used “Bullseye” clear shellac from Lowes.

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jdthomas

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#11 posted 03-20-2018 05:06 PM

Sealing with regular shellac (with wax) will be okay if you are following with oil-based. The SealCoat, which as William Shelley pointed out, is de-waxed, would be good under either oil- or water-based. I’ve used the SealCoat several times. It’s a 2 lb. cut and it’s a little sticky, so I’ve thinned it 50/50 with denatured alcohol and wiped on several coats. It’ll raise the grain a bit, so may want to give a light sanding before continuing on with your lacquer.

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