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ellisafa

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03-13-2018 12:51 AM

Topic tags/keywords: stain finishing

Hello, so I got my new doors built and am now trying to figure out how to best match the stain. The original doors came out of a high volume cabinet shop. The finish is definitely sprayed on as you can see from the hinge mounts. I have tried to have it matched at Sherwin-Williams with a wiping stain but it isn’t even close. I am thinking it might be a water based stain sprayed on or it is just some kind of toner mix? The wood is soft maple.

Any ideas would be much appreciated! Thank you.

-- John, Round Rock, TX


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#1 posted 03-13-2018 02:17 AM

I made a table with a slab of black walnut and I didn’t have any more stock to make the base so I used white oak. I struggles finding a stain to match the top. General finishes gel stain was as close as I could get but it was still a little off after I applied it. I then added some of the gel stain to my seal coat and made about 4 coats, adding a little each time until I got a perfect match. Clear top coat to finish. Sorry I don’t have pics.

-- Dave, New York

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#2 posted 03-13-2018 04:38 AM

Thanks, Dave. I figured that is the approach I am going to have to take as well. Any idea what they might have used to make the finish in the picture?

-- John, Round Rock, TX

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#3 posted 03-13-2018 05:51 AM

I had to match a dark walnut table. It required using a walnut dye, then a walnut stain.

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#4 posted 03-13-2018 06:05 AM

You can get that color with aniline dyes. I have
water soluble ones which are forgiving except
they raise the grain so you have deal with that.
I also have oil soluble ones I mix into off-the-shelf
oil stains to make them darker. The dye dissolves
in the oil, unlike most of the pigments in the stain
which stick in the pores and emphasize the grain.

In this case you’d want to deemphasize the grain.
I think water or alcohol soluble dyes would work
well. The oil ones have the issue that the oil
doesn’t evaporate and stays in the wood so if
you want to do darker after the second coat
you’re out of luck.

Mix and test, mix and test. A little jewelry scale
and dixie cups are useful. The dye is powder.

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#5 posted 03-13-2018 06:13 AM

You can tell by muted wood grain they used a stain .vs dye product to add color. It also appears to have been glazed with dark “mocha” type of stain to add depth.
I like Sherwin Williams folks, and use them for wood finishes. But when it comes time to match colors, I get best matches from local ‘Painters Supply’ that sells Mohawk brand finishes. Mohawk has a very large “standard” color set, and is commonly used by local cabinet shops.
I had a commercially made entertainment center, and guys at paint store took one look at a panel and showed me the matching dye and glaze used by mfg as standard PN from Mohawk. The match was perfect, once I figured out how to duplicate the spray and immediately wipe off process for the glazing.

Best Luck!

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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#6 posted 03-14-2018 02:25 AM

Go to general finishes website. I’m sure they would have something exact or close to what you need. I used gel stain for the first time on my last piece and I have to say I prefer gel now. Who knows, maybe I’ll experiment with a new stain or dye someday and prefer that. Always learning. Good luck to you my friend.

-- Dave, New York

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#7 posted 03-17-2018 02:06 PM

Thanks, everyone. I got pretty close with a combination of dyes and then a stain on top. It is a bunch of trial and error with test boards!

-- John, Round Rock, TX

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