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04-23-2011 03:32 PM

A friend asked if I would make a leaf for a card table. I haven’t been out to see it, but he sent phone pics. I’m inclined to say no. I would appreciate all input.



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#1 posted 04-23-2011 04:30 PM

looks like a challenge … I’d turn it down myself

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#2 posted 04-23-2011 05:09 PM

Parquet red oak leaf, huh?

Does he want it to match, or is he giving you carte blanche?

If you were going to try and match it, it certainly could be done, but you’d probably want to at least strip the entire top down and apply the same finish over the entire top if you really want it to match. It might be good to use some sort of dye/stain/toner or something as well in order to get all of the oak the same tone/color. You could certainly just build the leaf and then have him do the stripping/refinishing.

I’m not really a parquet fan, so I would probably personally turn it down, but then again, it’s not my friend. Is he going to reasonably compensate you for it, or is it more of a “favor”?

-- Jonathan, Denver, CO "Constructive criticism is welcome and valued as it gives me new perspectives and helps me to advance as a woodworker."

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#3 posted 04-23-2011 06:37 PM

I agree completely about the finish matching. We only had a very short conversation about it. He’s not asking for a favor, he knows it’ll cost.

I think rather than matching, the easy way out would be a contrasting leaf.

It’s not going to be a big deal if I turn it down.

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#4 posted 04-23-2011 07:00 PM

That certainly would be easier to do something contrasting.

Another thing is going to be matching up the pins that slide into the alignment holes exactly, both width-wise and height-wise, since you can’t take the measurements yourself (or can you… not sure how far away the table is?).

Not sure if the leaf is only going to be used for playing cards, or for dinner, etc.? If it’s just for cards and you decide to go the contrasting route, you might be able to incorporate the primary card game played on the table, into the design of the leaf. By that, I mean that if Texas Hold ‘Em is always played on it, you could have a little inlay for each card. For instance, maybe you make the leaf out of maple or walnut for contrast, then you inlay another wood, or even red oak, in the shape and size of a card? I know the layout on the leaf is not ideal for this since it’d all be on the leaf, versus stretching it out in the center of the table, running length-wise, but it was just a thought.

-- Jonathan, Denver, CO "Constructive criticism is welcome and valued as it gives me new perspectives and helps me to advance as a woodworker."

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#5 posted 04-23-2011 07:26 PM

Thanks, Jonathan! Those are some good ideas. That sounds too much like work. I was thinking to match the band going around the table, and use that as most of the leaf. Red oak on the edges, with a big band. I think we both prefer something short and sweet. Mostly it will be covered with beer cans and pizza boxes.

It looks like the top and the side are just rounded with a router bit, then joined at aright angle. Dowel pins won’t be a major issue.

I wish he had said something last year. I threw out an old wobbly table that had a leaf that might have dropped right in.

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#6 posted 04-23-2011 07:33 PM

The old saying that timing is everything; too bad about throwing out the old leaf and table last year!

I am one of those people that has a hard time with “keeping it simple” a lot of the time.

Let us know if you do end up doing this, or not, and how it turns out.

-- Jonathan, Denver, CO "Constructive criticism is welcome and valued as it gives me new perspectives and helps me to advance as a woodworker."

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#7 posted 04-23-2011 09:12 PM

If you make it, start with a quick plywood and 2×4 pine mock-up … you will be happy you did.. it might even be good enough … painted

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#8 posted 04-24-2011 04:45 PM

There are always lots of what ifs with a project like this, matching wood, finish etc but I’d be inclined to go for it. But then I like a challenge.

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