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otis501

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03-02-2018 07:51 PM

Topic tags/keywords: veneering tip

I have very thin and dry veneer that I can’t cut without splitting. Saw on youtube about veneer softener. How well does it work? ANYONE USE PROGLUE VENEER SOFTENER SAW IT ON WEB SITE. iT HELPS TO SOFTEN SO IT CAN BE CUT BETTER. THINK I WILL BUY SOME AND WILL WRIGHT ABOUT IT, GOOD OR BAD


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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 03-02-2018 08:05 PM

I’ve always used glycerine and water, and it works very well. Glycerine is getting a little harder to find so I’ll probably pick up some commercial stuff when I need it. Veneer softeners work well, but that’s not an answer to your question…I have no idea what you saw on youtube.

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#2 posted 03-02-2018 08:59 PM

Reminds me of stool softeners.

I would think that water and careful use of a very sharp razor knife would work just as well, especially if it’s thin.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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shipwright

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#3 posted 03-02-2018 09:12 PM

Water alone will flatten your veneer just fine.
Here is an article I wrote on it complete with pictures. http://woodworkingmonthly.com/issue-1-04-october-2016/flattening-wavy-veneer
In the article I use hot cauls to speed the process but just pressing between plywood, MDF, or metal cauls either in a press or with clamps will work as well.

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#4 posted 03-03-2018 02:59 PM

I make my own veneer softener from glycerine, water, alcohol, and white glue. I cannot remember where I got the recipe but the ingredients are cheap and it saved a lot of money over buying a product. Glycerine is sold at Walmart or any pharmacy as a stool softener.

Mario Rodriguez uses 50% water, 20% denatured alcohol, 20% glycerine and 10% liquid hide glue …https://www.popularwoodworking.com/projects/how-to-flatten-wrinkled-veneer. There are other recipes (Google Freddy Roman, for example).

It’s mandatory for some of the walnut and mahogany crotch veneers I use. It works very well for me.

Bob Van Dyke has a recent video at the Fine Woodworking site that demonstrates the process well.

-- Bill Micah 6:8

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bbrown

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#5 posted 03-04-2018 02:11 AM

Here’s another recipe that I got from Freddy Roman…..

Half Denatured alcohol/ half water
Add 2 tablespoons of hide glue (any will do: Franklin, Old Brown Glue, or hot hide glue)
Add 2 tablespoons glycerin

The glue helps keep the veneer intact; the glycerine is what does the softening

Here’s how I use it…..

You can spray it from a spray bottle or brush it on. Saturate the surface and let it drip off for about 5- 10 minutes before flattening. Layer 2-3 sheets of newspaper between each layer of veneer and compress the sandwich between two pieces of MDF of any other heavy flat boards. Some use a veneer press, but it is not really needed. I don’t have one, not do I have a vacuum press for any of my veneer work.

Keep it under compression (weights work if you do not want to tie up your clamps for long-term storage) as long as you want, until you are ready to use it.

-- Bill Micah 6:8

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otis501

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#6 posted 03-06-2018 04:21 AM

any one use pro glue veneer softener

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bbrown

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#7 posted 03-06-2018 04:12 PM

I’ve used it and it works great. It’s cheaper to make your own if you’re going to use any quantity.

-- Bill Micah 6:8

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shipwright

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#8 posted 03-06-2018 06:51 PM

I have two spray bottles of veneer softener at home but have never used it. I work with veneer almost every day and have never found a case where water didn’t get the job done. I bought the softener just before I learned the way to do it with water alone.

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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bonesbr549

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#9 posted 03-06-2018 07:30 PM

I use the one for joewoodworker.com, and its never failed me.

-- Sooner or later Liberals run out of other people's money.

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