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Forum topic by SSMDad posted 04-19-2011 03:54 PM 1333 views 0 times favorited 24 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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SSMDad

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04-19-2011 03:54 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw chisel drill press planer scroll saw jointer carving tool delta grizzly planer

Hello Everyone,

I’m relatively new to the field and just wanted a few suggestions on some tools I was thinking of buying. I have very little space to keep things so it will have to be tabletop right now for everything. Right now I have a Bosch 4100 contractor table saw, Bosch 1617EVS router combo, Makita circular saw, Hitachi orbital sander. Ridgid shop vac. That’s about it and not the point of my post so apologies for the deviation.

What I’m looking at now is a planer, joiner, scrollsaw, (maybe bandsaw and drillpress), and a decent set of chisels (not super high quality expensive but not cheap low quality either).

My price range is limited to below $500 and I know I won’t be able to get much for that but would like some suggestions.

Planers: I’m looking at (just the benchtop 12.5” and 13” ones) the Grizzly (only heard of this company recently so that’s how much I know about equipment), Delta 12.5, Rikon, Dewalt (though not a fan of the Dewalt line of any product). That’s about it but I’m open to ideas.

Jointers: I’ve looked at the Delta and Jet benchtops.

Scrollsaws: Skil, Dewalt, Ryobi, Rikon

Not sure about the drill press (though I’ve seen the Grizzly and Deltas) and saw with bandsaws

As far as handtools really just a nice set of chisels I could use for mortising and working on dovetail joints (though I’ll probably use my router most of the time for that).

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I’d also like to stay with purchasing from Woodcraft, Grizzly, and Amazon if that helps. :)

Thanks so much.

Chris

-- Chris ~~Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."


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agallant

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#1 posted 04-19-2011 04:22 PM

I think you may be hard pressed to get all of those tools for under $500. The jointer/plainer and chisels are some of the things I use the most. I have a Jet JJP-10BTOS which I picked up for $399 on sale at wood craft and my chisels are a set of craftsman that I think were around $99. Instead of trying to buy all of those tools for your price range you may be better off getting fewer tools but higher quality.

I cant speak for everyone but I don’t use my drill press nearly as much as my jointer,plainer and chisels, don’t get me wrong I love having the thing the few times I use it but it is something that I can live without.

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SSMDad

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#2 posted 04-19-2011 04:37 PM

Thanks agallant. The $500 range was for one or two but not all of the tools. Is the jointer/planer as good as the dedicated planer and dedicated jointer?

-- Chris ~~Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."

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WayneC

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#3 posted 04-19-2011 04:41 PM

I have a Rigid planer and it works great (my jointer is a general and recommended but a bit high on your price range). You might be able to get a good deal on used one Craigslist. I see quite a few planers and jointers on Craigslist here in Northern California.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#4 posted 04-19-2011 04:54 PM

I’d buy them as I need them.

Just a few thoughts on various tools…

- Bench-top jointers…meh.

- A good set of Marple (Irwin) chisels are a good value. Just re-sharpen them (especially flatten the back) when you get them.

- One of the most useful tools I have is my block plane. Even a cheap Stanley Bailey plane (once tuned up), is a true MVP of the shop.

- You didn’t mention a router table. I’d put that very high on the priority list. Tons of options there, from cheap to expensive, but it’ll likely be the first thing you truly need.

- Planers transform the way you work in this hobby…it’s a very important tool for me.

- You can actually use other methods for edge-jointing (table saw, table router) and face-jointing (planer sled) boards…so whereas a jointer is wonderful to have, you can actually “get by” using other methods.

- Clamps. You’ll need clamps. And when you think you have enough of them, go buy about 50 more of them.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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vernonator

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#5 posted 04-19-2011 04:54 PM

I have a dewalt DW734 and think it is just fine for a hobby shop – take a Harbor Freight 20% coupon to Lowes and you can get one for $298+tax…..thats what I did and am not at all disappointed.

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superstretch

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#6 posted 04-19-2011 05:23 PM

I got a Ridgid 13” planer at an auction for $200 and joint on my TS/router table until I get room for a jointer.

Craigslist is your friend if you don’t have a big budget. I’ve found most people I’ve dealt with are getting rid of their tools because they needed them for one job.

You don’t really specify what you plan on doing.. Jet and the like might be overkill for now. There’s no shame in Ryobi/Craftsman/etc.

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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SSMDad

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#7 posted 04-20-2011 12:19 AM

Thanks SO much everyone. Here’s what I ordered today: router table, Rockwell bladerunner, grizzly 12.5” planer. Unfortunately here in the Wash DC area, CL doesn’t have much of woodworking tools like these.

-- Chris ~~Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."

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SSMDad

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#8 posted 04-20-2011 01:12 AM

Dan, totally agree. I do like Ridgid tools and have a few including my shop vac. Main thing for me is quality and longevity at a price I can afford. Plus I’d like my son to be able to have it if he wants it or at least be able to sell it for a decent price if something were to happen “soonish” to me.

-- Chris ~~Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."

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WayneC

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#9 posted 04-20-2011 01:58 AM

Along those lines, I have a Rigid Drill Press as well as the Jointer. I recommend both as good tools.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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William

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#10 posted 04-20-2011 02:20 AM

For a scroll saw, I recommend a Dela SS250. You can find them on E-Bay all day long for less than $100 shipping included. While a lot fo people consider this an entry level saw (because that’s actually what it is), you can do a lot with it and move up to a better one down the road. I’m going on two years using mine and you can go look at some of my projects and see the quality of work I turn out on mine.
If you buy one, please be sure to get the SS250, not the SS200. The 200 is a lighter duty saw that sells for almost the exact same price.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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William

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#11 posted 04-20-2011 02:23 AM

For a planer (I can’t believe I’m recommending this brand) for someone on a budget, I’ve had a lot of good luck out of my Ryobi 13” planer. It’s actually a good planer. The only drawback I have had with mine is with the two blade system, the knives dull quicker than if I had a three blade or better. Replacement knives can get expensive. Since I’ve started sharpening them myself though, that’s also a non-issue. When I get to where I can afford it though, I’m looking at either a Rigid planer or a Dewalt.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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SSMDad

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#12 posted 04-20-2011 02:17 PM

William, thanks for the info and advice. I looked on ebay but didn’t see anything but 1 manual for the Delta SS250.There seems to be a lot of the 40-560 saws though. Do you or anyone else know anything about this model and quality/what’s it worth?

Thanks!

-- Chris ~~Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."

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William

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#13 posted 04-20-2011 04:02 PM

I’m sorry. I’ve heard that is a good saw, but with no personal experience with it, I can’t hanestly give advice on it.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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SSMDad

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#14 posted 04-24-2011 11:56 PM

Ok. Here’s what I have acquired so far in equipment. Craftsman 16” Scrollsaw $45, Delta Belt/Disc Sander $30, bunch of clamps but I could always use more, Grizzly 12.5” planer arriving tomorrow, Bosch router table arriving this week. Still on the lookout for a jigsaw, jointer, and drill press but it’s not that necessary at the moment.

Question I do have is what’s a good dovetail saw and chisel set for a beginner? There are SO many different models and while at some point I’ll get a dovetail jig for the router, I’d like to learn to do them by hand first.

Sorry to ask so many silly questions and many thanks.

-- Chris ~~Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."

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Tedstor

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#15 posted 04-25-2011 04:06 AM

As a fellow DC/METRO inhabitant, I can sympathize with the lack of goodies on CL. I’ve found it to be feast or famine. Occasionally, there will be an odd week where the list is packed with great tools at giveaway prices. Pretty much all of my tools are from CL. You might also check out neighboring CL sites. I commonly look at Baltimore, Charlottesville, and Richmond. Its kind of fun taking a short road trip as long as the tool is well described and the seller gives off a good vibe.
Chisels for a beginner? Narex are said to be good. They can be bought affordably from Lee Valley or Highland Woodworking. Marples Blue Chips are another bang/buck product. I’m currently using some cheapies from Sheffield/Great Neck. They work OK, but I’m enevitably going to replace them with a Narex set whenever I get around to it.
For a dovetail saw, I use a (don’t laugh) $7 Harbor Freight japanese saw. I own a few dt saws. Some of which are fairly pricey, but the bottom dweller from HF just flat-out works best in my hands. Its hard to rec’d a dovetail saw since personal preference varies so much. Heck, some guys use a hacksaw. Despite all that, Veritas makes a reasonably affordable line of saws that is widely respected. You can check them out on the Lee Valley website. LV also sells a razor/hobby saw that is typically recommended. Its about $11.

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