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Montrealer

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02-28-2018 12:07 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bosch craftsman king tablesaw

Hi,

This is my first post on this forum. I’ve been reading for the last couple of months and there is tones of great information and advise. Thank You.

I’m looking at replacing my Craftsman 137.27 table saw. Although its done a decent job, the fence is always mis-aligned and the miter slot’s not standard making it hard to build/buy good jigs.

I’m looking at the Bosch 4100 which has fantastic reviews but its also one of the most expensive. I’ve also noticed that Home-Depot online has the King KC-5100C for cheaper and I can get it even cheaper on the web (half the price of the Bosch). Unfortunately none of the stores have a display model so I cannot see it in person. I can order one, assemble it and return it if I dont like it, but that’s a lot of work.

Has anyone used one and was it a good experience. Does it have a good fence equal to Bosch? What do you think?

Thanks,
Spiro


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#1 posted 02-28-2018 12:48 PM

Hopefully someone with experience on one or the other of the saws will answer, although since the King are only sold in Canada there may not be many who have used both.
Assuming you’re in Montreal, though, there are a lot of local King dealers you could visit to check out the saw in person. I saw one locally in my tool repair/dealer yesterday. You can find the list at: http://www.kingcanada.com/dealer-locator/

-- Jeremy, in the Acadian forests

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#2 posted 02-28-2018 01:18 PM

Do you need a contractor saw due to space restrictions?

Because if you don’t there are full-sized table saws that sell for under $1,000 all the time on auction sites and craigslist. It’ll take a little longer to get in the door, and yes there will be added expenses in the setup and clean-up of a used tool, but you’ll be much happier in the end.

You’re already looking at over $600 for the Bosch after tax. By the time you shop around and find the used table saw you want you’ll have the difference saved up.

To answer your question about the King: I have no personal experience with it but I can tell you one thing is guaranteed. Corners were cut somewhere. Margins on the contractor saws are tight, it’s a competitive market. Any tool you get out of a big box store is going to have it’s quality directly tied to it’s price tag.

I’d go through the effort of finding a good used unisaw or something in that category though, if you don’t need the space and portability. Even if you do need the space, I would be considering the option of getting it and putting it on a mobile platform so that it can be slid into the corner when you’re done.

A good table saw opens up so many options for future projects.

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#3 posted 02-28-2018 05:27 PM

I went to the King Power Tools web site – their tools are made in Punjab, India.

-- When I was a kid I wanted to be older . . . . . this CRAP is not what I expected !

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#4 posted 02-28-2018 09:32 PM

Jeremy, I’ll see if there is another dealer here in Montreal that has a demo unit.

BoardButcherer, I did look at the Ridgid RS4512 full size table saw which is about the same price as the Bosch but unfortunately I don’t have the space; my workshop is tiny. You are probably right, the price is tied to quality. From what I’ve been researching most of the bigger saw like the Ridgid have 57” rails which is too long for my tiny shop. I wonder, can I buy a used one and cut the rails to make it fit or somehow modify it? I’d want to do in a way where if I move in 5 years (the wife keeps talking about downsizing; I’m ok as long as I get a bigger shop) I can expand it again.

Is India considered the same xxxx as China when it come to tools?

Thanks

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#5 posted 02-28-2018 09:45 PM

Montrealer – Have no idea if India or China would be considered the same as xxxx, or better. I was just curious as to where King tools were manufactured. Any reviews from our neighbors up north ?

-- When I was a kid I wanted to be older . . . . . this CRAP is not what I expected !

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#6 posted 02-28-2018 09:59 PM

BoardButcherer, I did look at the Ridgid RS4512 full size table saw which is about the same price as the Bosch but unfortunately I don t have the space; my workshop is tiny. You are probably right, the price is tied to quality. From what I ve been researching most of the bigger saw like the Ridgid have 57” rails which is too long for my tiny shop. I wonder, can I buy a used one and cut the rails to make it fit or somehow modify it? I d want to do in a way where if I move in 5 years (the wife keeps talking about downsizing; I m ok as long as I get a bigger shop) I can expand it again.
- Montrealer

The footprint between contractor, hybrid and cabinet saws is negligible. And if you don’t need a 50” rip fence, don’t get one. There are plenty of saws with a 30” fence that are more than adequate. BTW – The footprint on a contractor saw is actually a bit more due to the motor hanging out the back. Here is a picture of a C-man plastic portable saw sitting on top of a cabinet saw. The difference in footprint is a couple of inches:


(C-man removed from it’s stand for the photo)

Also – if you are looking at the portable saws – be aware that they use universal screamer motors instead of real induction motors. Not only are they extremely loud compared to a real motor, but they have plastic motor housings that will quickly warp/melt if pushed just the least bit too hard. That will then toast the motor, as the rear bearing is housed in plastic, and will provide enough ‘give’ to allow stuff to come into contact that shouldn’t.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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