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Zaven

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02-28-2018 12:06 PM

Hi guys. Completely new to the forum. My dad has a cabinet refinishing shop. We have been making it off of just cabinet refinishing for years. Recently we started building cabinets. My dad has his shop but now I am continuing to build up my garage shop and I am looking to purchase my first and hopefully last router table. If anyone could please offer some advice for a $600-$800 budget I would appreciate it very much. I am looking for something better than a bench top. I have Bosch MRC23EVSK router combo. https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us&source=android-browser&q=Bosch+MRC23EVSK
So far the best looking table I can find is the router table I can find is the Kreg PRS1045 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YVQ2430/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_PMFLAbJ8X7A69

Would these make a good pair? Also the table doesn’t come with a lift or miter gauge. I don’t think I will need a lift because the Bosch has a top adjustment feature built in. The only problem is it doesn’t look like you can raise the bit high enough to change bits when in the table. Is this true? Second, anyone know where I can get a miter sled for that kreg table? They show them using one in the product video for the table.

Sorry for so many questions. All help is greatly appreciated.


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GrantA

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#1 posted 02-28-2018 01:44 PM

I recently built one as an extension to my table saw (still gotta finish the fence) but after looking at all the options I’ve gotta recommend Incra. Their 24×36 top is$189, their stand for it is $139, $50 if you want wheels and I’d think hard about getting the cleansweep dust collection setup, $145 for the combo. I’m thinking of adding that to mine.
Their plates have a unique feature of being magnetic, no spanner wrench or plastic parts to pop in. Plus they use a dozen or so bolts around the perimeter for plate leveling and support, not just at the corners.
I love mine! https://www.incrementaltools.com/Articles.asp?ID=137

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#2 posted 02-28-2018 01:53 PM

I have the MRC23EVSK. I’m buying a new router soon to put in a table.

Why? The whole trigger in the handle setup. You can’t use it with a router lift unless you build it yourself and I don’t wholly trust to trigger lock to stay locked after extended use. It’s all plastic and doesn’t have a lot of meat on it.

After looking at the possibilities from all the different angles I decided it’d just be better to buy a dedicated 3.5hp production router from Milwaukee or Triton and keep the bosch for manual routing. It’s what it was designed for, it’s good at it, so why should I try to force it to do something else?

There are a lot of options for tables, most of them more expensive than what the size warrants. I’ve seen a lot of people build a table for a fraction of the price out of wood that’s twice the quality of what they can buy. You seem to have a fair amount of experience under your belt so I’d consider this seriously. With a little ingenuity you could even make a single table that functions as both a vertical and horizontal table.

Another option is what I’m doing: grabbing a cast iron extension wing for my table saw . A wing, a 3.5hp router, and a phenolic plate lift will put you around the $800 end of your budget. Pick your wing carefully though, they’re all set up to take a different size of plate, so your choice in extension wing determines your choice in accessories, and the accessories can limit your functionality. There are 3 available that I know of: Peachtree, Bench Dog and MLCS. I tried buying the peachtree because it’s the only one that has a standard plate size but I would’ve had to wait 2 months because they were out of stock, so I went with the bench dog because it has the second best list of accessories.

Those are the two best options I came up with after months of shopping: Build my own to suit my own needs, or a cast iron top to add to my table saw, which increases my cast iron working surface for both tools.

Both are good options, but may not be the best option for you. I don’t know what you’ve got envisioned for your shop setup.

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Redoak49

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#3 posted 02-28-2018 02:10 PM

I would spend money on a good router and router lift. It sounds like you are more than capable of building your own router table.

I have a PC 7518, a Woodpecker lift and built my own table.

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#4 posted 02-28-2018 03:46 PM

Bench Dog makes great router tables, or router table tops to install on your own base cabinet.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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rwe2156

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#5 posted 02-28-2018 03:53 PM

Check out the top/fence system on Sommerfeld Tools. I think its the best out there.

You can build your own base.

The Triton router you can change bits from the top use an offset wrench.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#6 posted 02-28-2018 04:23 PM

Like Grant, I bought the Incra table/insert, and their cleansweep plate inserts.
Then I made the router enclosure underneath for a 4” dust collector hose attachment, and a fence. With 4” hose on both the fence and router enclosure, it catches virtually all dust.
I’m using an old Freud router, and can raise it high enough to change bits above the table.
Triton, Bosch, Milwaukee, PC are popular table routers.

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Zaven

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#7 posted 02-28-2018 04:27 PM


I recently built one as an extension to my table saw (still gotta finish the fence) but after looking at all the options I ve gotta recommend Incra. Their 24×36 top is$189, their stand for it is $139, $50 if you want wheels and I d think hard about getting the cleansweep dust collection setup, $145 for the combo. I m thinking of adding that to mine.
Their plates have a unique feature of being magnetic, no spanner wrench or plastic parts to pop in. Plus they use a dozen or so bolts around the perimeter for plate leveling and support, not just at the corners.
I love mine! https://www.incrementaltools.com/Articles.asp?ID=137

- GrantA

Wow a lot of good feedback here. Thanks so much guys. I realize the shop built table may save a lot of money and end up with a better end result but I am so busy and still working on renovating my entire house alone. Going on year 3. Getting kind of burned out and want to minimize work where I can. With that said this incra stuff suggested looks great. I am thinking of purchasing

https://www.incrementaltools.com/Router_Fence_and_Table_Combo_1_p/rtcombo-1.htm

My main question is the offset table with the fence jig that can make dovetail and box joints really good? Anyone have experience with it?

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GrantA

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#8 posted 02-28-2018 05:19 PM

I haven’t used their fence but I have watched their videos and want one whenever I upgrade to a cabinet saw, one day…
There are lots of videos on their site, check them out and look at YouTube too.

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#9 posted 02-28-2018 05:56 PM

Sounds like a good time to build your own router table to suit your needs. If you are buidling cabinets, I think you have the skill.

I don’t have nay plans, but I built an assembly table with two routers mounted in it. When not needed, I lift the insert plate, router and all out of the hole and place a cover over the hole so something else can sit on the table. It also is adjustable so the height can be set low for assembly work or high for routing (much more comfortable)...or anywhere in between to make for extra working space on my work bench/outfeed table.

I used an RV jack from HF. Plenty strong and easy to use. Raise the top or lower it as needed. I have been vry happy with this set up.

Note: With two routers, you can have a rail cutter in one and the stile cutter in the other! :-) Or a flush trim bit in one and a round-over in the other. The Triton 3 1/4hp is on one end and a Bosch 1617 is on the other. No lift required for either, and adjustments to the bit can be made from above the table.

More info can be found here → Adjustable Height Worktable
Good luck.


-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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Zaven

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#10 posted 02-28-2018 06:33 PM



Sounds like a good time to build your own router table to suit your needs. If you are buidling cabinets, I think you have the skill.

I don t have nay plans, but I built an assembly table with two routers mounted in it. When not needed, I lift the insert plate, router and all out of the hole and place a cover over the hole so something else can sit on the table. It also is adjustable so the height can be set low for assembly work or high for routing (much more comfortable)...or anywhere in between to make for extra working space on my work bench/outfeed table.

I used an RV jack from HF. Plenty strong and easy to use. Raise the top or lower it as needed. I have been vry happy with this set up.

Note: With two routers, you can have a rail cutter in one and the stile cutter in the other! :-) Or a flush trim bit in one and a round-over in the other. The Triton 3 1/4hp is on one end and a Bosch 1617 is on the other. No lift required for either, and adjustments to the bit can be made from above the table.

More info can be found here → Adjustable Height Worktable
Good luck.


- MT_Stringer

Absolutely amazing. That would speed things up for me so much. What model Triton is it? Fixed or plunge?

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MT_Stringer

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#11 posted 02-28-2018 06:49 PM

The Triton is TRA001 – 3 1/4 hp. It is ideal for table mounting. Take the springs out so the plunge is defeated. Hand crank from above the table raises or lowers the unit. No need for a lift, which I think it is too big for a lift anyway. One wrench operation. When you raise the collet to its height, it locks in place so only one wrench is needed to change bits.

Hope this helps.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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#12 posted 02-28-2018 08:59 PM

The Jessem set up I bought is really amazing. I’m very satisfied with it.

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#13 posted 02-28-2018 09:19 PM

I have a BenchDog cast iron extension wing on my table saw.
It fit my 40+ year old Craftsman table saw without ANY modification to either the BenchDog or my table saw.
It takes up less room than a stand alone, is very well made, and I can use some of my table saw accessories with my router.
Besides that, it is also an extremely flat extension wing that is better than my old (now discarded) wings.

I have had this for over 15 years and really like it.

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#14 posted 03-01-2018 03:07 PM

Zaven,

It may be worthwhile to consider a shaper in lieu of a router table before finalizing your decision. A shaper seems to provide better results than a router and may be a better tool than a router table for professional work. While cutters cost more than router bits, many shapers can be equipped with a power feeder for production work. A router collet can also be purchased for some shapers should you ever wish to spin router bits in the shaper.

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