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Forum topic by jtpryan posted 1230 days ago 1034 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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jtpryan

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1230 days ago

I am in the final stages of building my kitchen island:

Kitchen Island

That is a Sketchup file…

Anyway, I am doing the front of it today, creating the face frame. I will have 4 drawers on top about 3” x 17” each, side by side. Then 2 very large drawers below, on on top of the other about 36” by 9”. The depth of the inside of the cabinet will be 20 1/2” or 21 3/4” depending on if I use 3/4” ply to back up the face frame (don’t know if I need to; another question). My question is what to do for the drawer slides. I want full extension, preferably the “soft closing” type, but I don’t want to go broke.

This is my first piece of cabinetry, so any advice is appreciate


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cabs4less

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#1 posted 1230 days ago

call your local cab shop and see where they are getting theres i pay bout 5.00 a pair and i aint folowing you onthe reason you want to back of the face frame

-- As Best I Can

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bubinga

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#2 posted 1230 days ago

Great timing to ask this question, there was a post about this very recently, go here, – – http://lumberjocks.com/topics/26283
Look at comment number five, click on the link to woodworkers hardware
here’s the link for the homepage but go read the other post also
http://wwhardware.com/index.cfm?pageid=0

-- E J ------- Always Keep a Firm Grip on Your Tool

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lew

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#3 posted 1230 days ago

You might want to check these folks. Great products, prices and service

http://www.cshardware.com/IWProducts.m4p.pvx?;productsno_tree?cat=4113

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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Bill White

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#4 posted 1229 days ago

I’m with cabs4less. What’s the deal w/ a backing for the faceframe?
The soft close guides are great.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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jtpryan

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#5 posted 1229 days ago

Ahhh the backing on the face frame….

OK, here is my thinking. The stiles on either side of the face frame are biscuit joined and glued to the legs. Then the rest of the face frame will be pocket joined between those 2 stiles. This just didn’t seem strong enough to me so I thought why not run some 3/4 stock behind the rails on the face frame and pocket join them to the legs for added support. This is all because I chose not to M&T the rails to the legs and break up the stiles. I just didn’t think it would look right.

I mean, it’s not a log of work to put the backing behind the face frame and I think it would add strength, so why not? Is there something I’m missing that would be a negative?

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Loren

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#6 posted 1229 days ago

The concealed style undermount slides will give you the most satisfaction -
they are the most costly but also the smoothest and have the cleanest
appearance.

If it’s for your own house, I say bite the bullet and get the good ones.

When your friends play with the drawers they will ooh and ahh and beg
you to build such fine cabinets for them.

Full-extension side mount slides are cheap in comparison, but ugly.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Russ Anderson

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#7 posted 1229 days ago

You could also try Louis and Company. They supply a lot of cabinet shops around the country. Their website isn’t the best, but their pricing is way better than what you would find at a Rockler. They may ask you to set up an account before giving you pricing, but it’s worth it.

https://www.louisandcompany.com/

-- Russ

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Loren

7443 posts in 2282 days


#8 posted 1229 days ago

Louis and Co. rocks. I’m near a distribution center so I get orders
the same day usually.

One way to wise-up in cabinetmaking is start dealing with the suppliers
the pros buy from for your materials. You’ll be astounded at how
much stores like Rockler mark-up common hardware like cup hinges.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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jtpryan

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#9 posted 1222 days ago

Well, after a design consult with the bride, I have decided to go with 4 drawers instead of 2. So there will be six altogether. The top holes in the face frame are 4” x 16”, the 4 bottom ones will be 9 1/2” x 16”.
Anyway, this being said, the next question gets back to the slides. I have gotten a lot of links to sites for these but none really tell me how they get installed, at least on the site. I’m sure stuff comes with them. So, at the risk of taking this thread in another direction I need to ask a simple (for you) question.

The distance from the front of the face frame to the back of the carcass is 22 1/2”. I want to use undermount soft close heavy duty slides. Blume has 21”. How adjustable is the back of these things? Do they adjust at all or do I get exactly 21” and I need to build the back of the carcass out to meet them?

Again, thank you in advance

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jtpryan

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#10 posted 1222 days ago

One more question. I plan on using 1/2” stock. What would you use for this? Baltic ply? Poplar?, Maple? The carcass is Birdseye maple and Maple ply.

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