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woodstuff

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04-17-2011 04:10 PM

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I recently built a cherry dining table. I applied a water based stain and the top looked great. I then proceeded to apply General Finish High performance water based sating.
After the top coat dried I noticed some lap marks in the finish. I would like to correct this without sanding the finish off and starting over. I am wondering if I can tint the top coat with some of the stain and blend or recoat the top. Any thougts?

-- Woodstuff Houston Texas


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CharlesNeil

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#1 posted 04-17-2011 08:17 PM

try this, give the first coat a light scuff sand to remove any whiskers or raised grain, then use the same stain as a glaze, basically wiping it on, let it have a min or 2 but no more, to bite into the finish, usually works pretty well, but if you still have issues, then add a little stain to the next coat of finish, and as gentle as possible, lightly dust the toner on, apply a light coat in one direction ,then cross hatch it by going the opposite direction, the better you can break the toner up the better it will be, so a higher pressure and less fluid will help you do not want a flooded wet coat, when dry apply another coat of finish, but again a decent wet coat, but not too heavy, dont want to dissolve the previous and have it mottle

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Steven H

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#2 posted 04-17-2011 08:47 PM

If you apply another coat, you will might probably see lap marks, if that’s not what you want. Best to fix it now before moving on.

Theres two ways to do this.

You can tint the General Finish High performance water base with UTC colorants.

OR

Apply the water stain on top of General Finish High performance water base. Be sure to sand before applying.

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Earlextech

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#3 posted 04-18-2011 03:57 PM

I always apply stain by spraying to help avoid this problem in particular. How can you possibly apply with a brush or rag enough stain for an entire table top without having issues such as this?
I flood the surface with a sprayed stain, covering the entire surface with an even coat, allow it to absorb, then wipe the excess with a clean rag. No lap marks.
As for your particular repair. Refer to CharlesNeil.

-- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "Finished"!

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Steven H

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#4 posted 04-18-2011 05:57 PM

Hey Charlie

Are you saying to add the water base stain with General high performance?

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CharlesNeil

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#5 posted 04-19-2011 04:12 PM

yes sir, add the stain to the HP, do it all the time if I need to, they are both WB so no issue, but what i do is to add the stain to to just enough to spray the toner coat, then from there i just use the topcoat untinted,

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