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Forum topic by David Grimes posted 04-16-2011 05:19 AM 1730 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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David Grimes

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04-16-2011 05:19 AM

http://routertableadroni.com/RS500RouterTable.html

I came across this during my many searches on the net trying to decide whether to go with a table saw router extension or build my own router table. This looks good to me… and I might be hard pressed to build one for any less. I even like the fact that it is ready to finish (unfinished).

I searched Lumberjocks to see if there had been any mention of this, but came up with nothing. That might mean that its an unknown… or that others have seen it, but passed on it.. or that there’s something I don’t see that I need to be warned about, etc.

Please let me know what you think of this item.

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia


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Loren

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#1 posted 04-16-2011 05:33 AM

Looks great, but you can make a router table that works as
well for about $30 in materials.

I won’t presume to tell you how to spend your money, but
buying wooden shop “furniture” so you can do woodworking
strikes me as a strange way to go about it. You can and will
learn a lot about woodworking and furnituremaking by fabricating
your own jigs and shop accessories. Everybody approaches
learning differently, and some people have a lot more money
to spend outfitting a shop than others. When I started I was
young and had to scrimp and save to buy tools. I salvaged
materials from alleys to build my early work, including the bench
I still use today.

I’ve owned a couple of cool commercial router tables, but a
sheet of melamine with a router screwed to the bottom works
just as well 99% of the time.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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bubinga

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#2 posted 04-16-2011 05:43 AM

The router cabinet I built is very similar to that. With oak frame ,and ply panels
When I drilled the holes for the bits, I first drilled 1/2in holes, and then drilled1/4in inside those holes deeper,
this way you can put ,1/2 or 1/4in shank bits in any spot

-- E J ------- Always Keep a Firm Grip on Your Tool

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David Grimes

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#3 posted 04-16-2011 06:31 AM

Bubinga, As Karl (Billy Bob Thornton) said in “Slingblade”: “I like the way you talk”.

That is a great idea ! I can’t say that would have occurred to me. Whatever I wind up with, the router bit holders will be as you described. Thanks again !

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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David Grimes

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#4 posted 04-16-2011 07:05 AM

Loren, All of your points are well taken. I, too have had to work for nearly everything I ever had and I don’t see that changing. I wouldn’t have it any other way, really. In my particular case, when I left big industry several years ago (2007), I had already partnered into a retail business (1997) plus had been building custom homes (and a few large spec homes as well) since the mid-nineties.

I had a shop in my home at the time I left, but one by one ALL of my tools and machines got sucked over to our business shop as I went full time there and business ramped up. And in every case, when those tools left my house, they never returned… mostly because I am the most anal person in the world about carefully using things and cleaning and maintaining them. The Hitachi compressor with busted gauge faces and paint spatter on it is not allowed back to the Grimes garage. That is only one small example. I won’t bore you. Just multiply that by 50. It got to the point that I couldn’t do ANYTHING at home because EVERYTHING was at the work shop. Many of us are fortunate to have a hobby that is our livelihood. I count myself among those. I just have many hobbies.

If I build a mantel in half the time and materials, but make enough to pay for this or any other thing, then in a sense I can leverage my time for gain. Time is usually not our friend. Another example: We are building a custom doorless shower for a man that I built the house for about 8 years ago. He has stacks taller than me of 3/8”, 1/2”, 5/8”, and 3/4” AC pine and birch plywood that he salvaged from government crates. I asked for his email address so I can invoice by email and he says his old computer is needing to be replaced. I also build computers. I will build him a computer for a very large pile of that material. Win / Win situation.

Capitalism is grand, but bartering is better !

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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Jack_T

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#5 posted 04-16-2011 07:51 PM

Whether to build or buy is a personal decision. I will limit my comments to this particular table.

By way of caution the following comments are solely opinion and do not purport to constitute fact.

My concerns with this table begin with the fact that the manufacturer does not have a single real picture of the completed table on his website. The images of the table are all computer graphic images. Have they ever made a real one?

Secondly, I do not understand why the sides are made of solid wood panels. A router table is a precision instrument. Solid wood moves. Movement of the cabinet walls equals distortion. Distortion is the enemy of precision. Plywood is used in cabinet construction because it is both strong and dimensionally stable.

Thirdly, the nylon swivel casters look like junk. The type you get on cheap knock down TV stands; not casters for a woodworkers shop.

Fourthly, construction of the table top concerns me. I do not know any commercial manufacturer who makes their tabletop out of wood, as this manufacturer alleges. I have two concerns regarding the metal bars. They are apparently fixed to the mdf top. They therefore should not move. When the solid wood panels move stress will be created either damaging the solid wood panel or damaging the mdf top.

Fifthly, there is no mention of any warranty.

Finally, the price, $399.00 is not that great.

Grizzly sells a sliding router table for $439.00 with a warranty http://www.grizzly.com/products/Router-Table/G0528

MCLS sells a router table with a cast iron table top for $349.95 and a router table with a cast iron sliding table top for $449.95. Both of these also come with a warranty.

For all of the foregoing reasons I would not buy this router table.

Having said all of the above I am not the most experienced woodworker here at LumberJocks. I welcome any corrections to any of my concerns.

-- Jack T, John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him might not perish but might have eternal life."

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bubinga

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#6 posted 04-17-2011 07:09 PM

The cast-iron tabletop that Jack_T is referring to, is not just a top it is the whole thing with steel legs, and is the other one with the sliding table. I’ve seen this many times, and the sale price they have listed now 349.95 is a good price
but the reason I came back here was to put this link in about this other cast-iron top I just saw, that I had never seen before, at rockler,—
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=21305
If I had $450 to spend I would buy, the Precision Sliding Router Table & Fence,at MLCS in a heartbeat
There is no bit storage but you could build a wood cabinet with drawers to fit.

-- E J ------- Always Keep a Firm Grip on Your Tool

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David Grimes

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#7 posted 04-17-2011 10:47 PM

Bubinga,

Wow. The sliding table on the Grizzly is a very useful feature. The tilting top is cool as well. The negatives (for me and my purposes) are overcome-able: Height is only 31”. I need 37”. No locking casters or casters of any kind. No storage (as you said) of any kind. I can overcome all three of these with a rolling base cabinet and trash the Grizzly stand / legs (or use it for something else) that unfortunately is angled instead of straight up (preventing me from building around and to it). MUCH food for thought (Chomp, chomp, spit, chomp)

The setup I end up with will be used primarily for making raised panel doors and drawer fronts. The sliding table on the Grizzly would be ideal for that. I wish it told the usable max stroke of the sliding table past the bit. It’s $509 with freight. Ouch !

I emailed the owner of the subject router table with loads of questions (my usual… sorry) and he called me Saturday morning. He answered everything to my satisfaction. If not for the sliding feature of the Grizzly, I would place this order. Got to think on this for a minute.

Whatever I do, I will continue to use my Craftsman rig (that is a router in a benchtop table that is mounted to a work stand that looks alot like the Grizzly stand) for quick ogee edges, roundovers, etc.

Thanks again for the input.

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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