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dovetailman

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02-24-2018 11:30 AM

Topic tags/keywords: planer jet planer powermatic planer baileigh used planer

I’m looking for my first planer and am having a hel;l of a time choosing. At first I thought I would get some older iron and restore it, like a Parks or Rockwell 13”. Now I’m thinking a new machine like the 4-post Jet. I’m looking at Jet/PM/ and Baileigh. Does anyone have any experience with the Baioleigh planers? I read the review by Cricket on here who got rid of his 3 yo table saw. My shop is made of of old restored m,achines and a newer cabinet saw. I think I may want something brand new.
My budget is $2k. Is the current PM planer lineup really worth the premium?


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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 02-24-2018 12:25 PM

I love PM stuff, but generally don’t believe it’s worth the steep increase in cost. Most of the planers come from 1 or 2 (or 3) Asian factories, and each company has a different way of managing the production of their machines. The better ones have on-site managers there to oversee that a quality product is produced. The lesser ones sometimes do it by proxy. I don’t have a suggestion form the brands you mentioned, but i would add Grizzly to the list.

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dovetailman

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#2 posted 02-24-2018 12:34 PM



I love PM stuff, but generally don t believe it s worth the steep increase in cost. Most of the planers come from 1 or 2 (or 3) Asian factories, and each company has a different way of managing the production of their machines. The better ones have on-site managers there to oversee that a quality product is produced. The lesser ones sometimes do it by proxy. I don t have a suggestion form the brands you mentioned, but i would add Grizzly to the list.

- Fred Hargis


That’s what I’ve been reading about the Asian factories and differnence in QA/QC standards are all that separate them and make the price difference. I feel that the Jet and Grizzly that you mention are the nice sweet spot in this mid-range tool category. From what I’m finding out in this current market.

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msinc

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#3 posted 02-24-2018 12:57 PM

Most of my stuff is PowerMatic. I also believe that it is somewhat overpriced when you factor what it does compared to other brands. A planed board is a planed board and at the end of the day it doesn’t matter which machine it was planed on. What keeps me going back for PowerMatic is the resale value, which in my experience is a direct result of the better quality control. In your price range a new Powermatic planer is not going to happen, you might have to find a good used one. That sometimes gets to be a problem if you are in a hurry…people tend to hang on to PowerMatic machines. Best of luck.

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PJKS

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#4 posted 02-24-2018 01:05 PM

Grizzly w/ spiral cutterhead ….

-- Pat / Colorado

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dovetailman

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#5 posted 02-24-2018 01:06 PM



Most of my stuff is PowerMatic. I also believe that it is somewhat overpriced when you factor what it does compared to other brands. A planed board is a planed board and at the end of the day it doesn t matter which machine it was planed on. What keeps me going back for PowerMatic is the resale value, which in my experience is a direct result of the better quality control. In your price range a new Powermatic planer is not going to happen, you might have to find a good used one. That sometimes gets to be a problem if you are in a hurry…people tend to hang on to PowerMatic machines. Best of luck.

- msinc


I like this viewpoint. I’ve only used PM planers and I could increase my budget but I’d rather just find something new that is well valued and respected in a different brand. I did find a PM100 for $750 but not sure if I want to do another restoration right now. It runs but I would instantly take it apart and tune-up and thenn paint.

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dovetailman

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#6 posted 02-24-2018 01:13 PM

One more thing…..going to CH Wilke today to look at planers. I’ll be mainly comparing the Jet to PM. Any others I should check out?

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dovetailman

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#7 posted 02-24-2018 08:58 PM

I got back from CH Wilkie and they had no planers on display but I did talk to a salesman and look at a helical head compared to a straight knife cutterhead.
I’ve realized that I need to increase my budget to $3500. My only problem is now having to decide between the Jet JWP-15HH and the PM-15HH.
Any advise will be greatly appreciated.

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Loren

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#8 posted 02-24-2018 09:10 PM

I’ve only used straight knife cutter heads
and never felt there was anything wrong with
them.

The operative principle here is that you talked
to a salesman and he did his job.

Spiral heads no doubt have some great benefits
though. Cost being no object I would probably
go for a spiral personally. I could upgrade
my cutter head for $1400 but really the Tersa-style
head I have works fine. Unless you do an awful
lot of planing straight knives perform adequately
for quite awhile. The thin disposable knives in
some portable planers may be an exception.

I don’t feel I’m missing out by not owning a
Sawstop either. I just use a blade guard and
it seems to do a pretty good job so far preventing
my fingers touching the moving blade.

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msinc

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#9 posted 02-25-2018 02:30 AM


Most of my stuff is PowerMatic. I also believe that it is somewhat overpriced when you factor what it does compared to other brands. A planed board is a planed board and at the end of the day it doesn t matter which machine it was planed on. What keeps me going back for PowerMatic is the resale value, which in my experience is a direct result of the better quality control. In your price range a new Powermatic planer is not going to happen, you might have to find a good used one. That sometimes gets to be a problem if you are in a hurry…people tend to hang on to PowerMatic machines. Best of luck.

- msinc

I like this viewpoint. I’ve only used PM planers and I could increase my budget but I’d rather just find something new that is well valued and respected in a different brand. I did find a PM100 for $750 but not sure if I want to do another restoration right now. It runs but I would instantly take it apart and tune-up and thenn paint.

- dovetailman

Thank you sir, it is very kind of you to say so. There is nothing at all wrong with Jet or Grizzly. Prior to my last planer I had a Grizzly and it worked perfect. I ran a lot of board feet thru it too. I believe the Jet comes with a helical head if I remember right. I also had a Grizzly jointer too and it worked okay, but the PowerMatic with it’s longer table is easier to use.
I don’t know enough about older PowerMatic machines. I feel like I should learn more, but don’t know where to start. If there was an older Powermatic planer out there that for some reason was superior to the ones available today I would way rather find one and do a complete overhaul on it. That way I would know I really had something. I have just recently bought all new stuff, mainly because, as above, I just don’t know what the better machines were and also because used PowerMatic’s are hard to find around here.
Like Mr. Loren above, I too like and have no problem using straight knives in both planers and jointers.

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#10 posted 02-25-2018 05:45 AM

If you happen to be in the Pacific NW, check out the Seattle CL. Powermatic/Jet has an outlet store south of Seattle that sells scratch & dent machines at a considerable discount. I bought the Jet 12” combo machine with helical head, and the price was significantly less than msrp. Don’t know the name of the company, as they don’t mention it in their ads.

I just checked, and they do have the 12 Jet combo machine, but no planers as such. It’s worth it to check everyday.

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