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texassteelpapa

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02-18-2018 07:06 PM

I want to invest in Sketch up and not sure which one to buy. I want to sketch furniture and a tiny home. I searched the posts but the last one posted was 2012. Any advice ? Also does Google own Sketch Up now or is it a different brand


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Andre

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#1 posted 02-18-2018 07:41 PM

No need to buy it download is free for anything the average person will use or need!

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#2 posted 02-18-2018 09:52 PM



No need to buy it download is free for anything the average person will use or need!

- Andre

+1. Free version ( 2017 download, not the new web version) has most of what you need for personal or small business use. When you activate it, you get the pro-features free for 30 days so make sure that you check them out before then to see if they are anything you will use regularly. I think that styles and the ability to export plans to PDF and a few other formats are couple that could come in handy but are easy for a hobbiest like myself to do without for the steep price tag.

If you haven’t learned a package yet, you might also look at Autodesk Fusion 360. It is also free for personal or small business use, though without loss of features, and seems to have some features that Sketchup doesn’t but because its interface is so different can be frustrating to switch to after learning Sketchup first. Because Sketchup seems to be moving their free version to the web (which is awful IMO), I would probably go with Fusion 360 if I was picking one to learn first.

If you do go the Sketchup route, do their online tutorial and then checkout Mathias Wandel’s (woodgears.ca) YouTube tutorial. I found his tutorial to be the best intro for new users interested in woodworking designs. Also, Fine Woodworking magazine has some good free blog entries for Sketchup tips, especially related to drawing joinery into your plans. BTW a very good free add-in for Sketchup is the Cutlist tool. Very handy for generating a list of components when you are ready to buy materials and build.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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texassteelpapa

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#3 posted 02-19-2018 07:15 AM

Thank you so much for the advice. Now you have me intrigued about the Fushion 360. Does it have the cutlist you wrote about on Sketch up because that is a great addition. I guess I can’t go wrong since they are free, Thank you again

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YesHaveSome

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#4 posted 02-19-2018 02:21 PM


No need to buy it download is free for anything the average person will use or need!

- Andre

+1. Free version ( 2017 download, not the new web version) has most of what you need for personal or small business use. When you activate it, you get the pro-features free for 30 days so make sure that you check them out before then to see if they are anything you will use regularly. I think that styles and the ability to export plans to PDF and a few other formats are couple that could come in handy but are easy for a hobbiest like myself to do without for the steep price tag.

If you haven t learned a package yet, you might also look at Autodesk Fusion 360. It is also free for personal or small business use, though without loss of features, and seems to have some features that Sketchup doesn t but because its interface is so different can be frustrating to switch to after learning Sketchup first. Because Sketchup seems to be moving their free version to the web (which is awful IMO), I would probably go with Fusion 360 if I was picking one to learn first.

If you do go the Sketchup route, do their online tutorial and then checkout Mathias Wandel s (woodgears.ca) YouTube tutorial. I found his tutorial to be the best intro for new users interested in woodworking designs. Also, Fine Woodworking magazine has some good free blog entries for Sketchup tips, especially related to drawing joinery into your plans. BTW a very good free add-in for Sketchup is the Cutlist tool. Very handy for generating a list of components when you are ready to buy materials and build.

- Lazyman

Technically, if you are a small business you have to buy the Pro version. Sketchup licensing sucks. I am going to go all in on Fusion360 because I am not dropping $700 on a program that I don’t really like.

-- But where does the meat go?

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Lazyman

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#5 posted 02-19-2018 03:37 PM



Thank you so much for the advice. Now you have me intrigued about the Fushion 360. Does it have the cutlist you wrote about on Sketch up because that is a great addition. I guess I can t go wrong since they are free, Thank you again

- texassteelpapa

Because I learned SU first, the transition to 360 was hard and I haven’t spent much time using it or looking for add-ons. A quick search found this (CSV-BOM) but I have not tried it or looked at reviews. There may be others and you may find some tutorials for doing it manually as well. One of the things that Cutlist will also do is the layout on your boards and plywood if you take the time while creating your components to define them properly. I typically just do this manually using a scene but it does work using Cutlist. Also note that if you are considering designing for CNC, F360 is probably the better choice. I have not played around with this yet but I think that F360 has some built in capabilities for CNC. Overall, I think that Sketchup is easier to learn but F360 probably has the most versatility and capability down the road.

BTW, I think that YesHaveSome is right that if you are using Sketchup for a for-profit business, you are supposed to to buy the pro version (but you can still try it for free). I think that F360 is free for hobbyist and businesses with less than $100k in total revenue but pretty pricey if you have to pay for it.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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texassteelpapa

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#6 posted 02-21-2018 03:48 AM

As in most woodworking ,for-profit ,is fleeting. I am way less than $100,000. It seems the CSV-BOM is Mac only that changes it for me. But thanks for the advice

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dschlic1

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#7 posted 02-22-2018 06:57 PM

CVS-BOM is also available for Windows.

I use both because my cnc machine is setup for Fusion 360. However Sketchup has 100’s perhaps 100’s of plugins for woodworking.

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texassteelpapa

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#8 posted 02-23-2018 04:30 AM

Now I find out my lennox system will not accept either systems so I am back to square 1

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Lazyman

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#9 posted 02-23-2018 02:47 PM


Now I find out my lennox system will not accept either systems so I am back to square 1

- texassteelpapa

I assume you meant Linux. LOL. I did a search for some sort of woodworking system made by Lennox before my morning brain kicked in.

I haven’t tried it with either Sketchup or F360 but you might look at using Wine for Linux. It will allow some Windows based packages to run on Linux. Since you can try them all for free, it won’t hurt to give it a shot.

Note that the new Sketchup free is totally browser based so you can use it on Linux or even the Chrome operating system so you can at least see the basics. It might not be as annoying to someone who has not used the regular version. It cannot run add-ins like Cutlist yet.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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texassteelpapa

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#10 posted 02-24-2018 04:23 AM

Sorry yes you are correct Linux. I was using Chrome for awhile.

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