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04-12-2011 06:23 PM

Topic tags/keywords: scms sliding compound miter saw bosch

I’ve been researching different sliding compound miter saws, and basically narrowed it down to the Bosch 4310 (10”) or 5312 (12”). The biggest thing (capacity wise) I want it for is making large cross cuts of rough and finished lumber, and since the cross cutting capacity is basically the same for both, I was planning on getting the 10” version. However, I get get the 5312 refurbished for ~100 less than the 10” version. Anyone have experience with refurb’d tools? Specifically it’s from CPO on amazon. Any other thoughts why I might want to spend extra for the 10” version over the 12”?

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#1 posted 04-12-2011 06:25 PM

They’ve both got the same cross-cut capacity but how thick is your lumber? I’ve never had the nerve to buy a refub’d tool from Amazon. It just never made sense to me to buy something that used to be broken. I may be way off with this, though.

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#2 posted 04-12-2011 06:28 PM

That’s part of my dilema, the 4310 will cut through up to 3.625×12”, 5312 will do 4.25×12.5”. Mostly my issue is whether I’m willing to risk it and buy refurb from amazon.

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#3 posted 04-12-2011 06:35 PM

I’d be inclined to go with the 10” myself. That’s a really nice saw from what I understand and I don’t see too many 12” around. Good luck!

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#4 posted 04-12-2011 06:37 PM

Just FWIW, the cutting height capacity for me is pretty important as well. I use my SCMS for cutting the PVC pipe for my dust collection system, a 10” model just wouldn’t do…

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#5 posted 04-12-2011 07:03 PM

I’d say go for the 12. In fact I’d strongly recommend a 12 non slider over a 10 slider. This all assumes you have a table saw for wide crosscuts. Just my 2c. Oh, and I’ve bought a few refurb. tools. No functionality problems to date.

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#6 posted 04-12-2011 07:05 PM

Refurbs can have some advantages, as they’ve definitely been checked out by a technician…not true of all brand new off the shelf tools. Not all refurbs were defective either…the reasons vary. If the savings make sense and the refurb/recon is from a reputable seller with a warranty, the odds are very good of having a good experience. I’ve bought several recons and most looked and worked like new and were significantly less.

My refurb list:
PC 175 roofing nailer
Milwaukee 5615 router
Hitachi M12VC router
Hitachi WH10DL 10.8v Li impact driver
Hitachi 14.4v Nicad impact driver
Hitachi 12v drill/flashlight
Hitachi belt sander
Makita grinder
Ridgid R4330 planer

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#7 posted 04-12-2011 08:40 PM

In general, I’ve found I get a finer cut from 10” saws vs 12”. I’m guessing the smaller blade is more stable.

As for cutting 6” pvc, I do it all the time on my 10” Makita. I cut partway in and then rotate the pipe into the blade. If the cutoff is short, I’ll do a partial cut, then turn the pipe and clamp the cutoff to the fence to finish the cut.

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#8 posted 04-12-2011 08:58 PM

Thanks for all the input
rance, why do you suggest the non-slider?

What I’ll largely be using the saw for is cutting up rough sawn lumber into more manageable sections, I don’t exactly like the idea of supporting the end of a 12’ piece of wood to cross cut it…

I’m leaning towards the 12” just for the extra capacity and the fact that it’s $100 less than the non-refurb 10”

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#9 posted 04-12-2011 09:00 PM

12” slider is the way to go .

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#10 posted 04-12-2011 09:29 PM

I have a dewalt 10” and a Bosch 12” I like hem both.

When I go to a job I usually bring the 10” but invariably I lug the Bosch 12” off the bench at home and bring it simply because it cuts deeper and when you start tilting the saw to cut at an angle the depth is significantly diminished. Also, vertical angle cuts take a longer stroke so those cuts are diminished.

I love my 10” because it is very mobile. But if I was not needing to move it or move it much I’d have a 12” for sure in the shop.

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#11 posted 04-12-2011 09:30 PM

^to all above, if you had the funds for EITHER a refurbed 12” or a brand new 10”, would this change your opinion?

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#12 posted 04-12-2011 09:53 PM

As of now I’ve ordered the 12” refurb, I’ll post when I get it on how I like it. I’m still interested in hearing people’s thoughts though, keep the discussion going :)

EDIT: I’ll mostly be leaving it in the garage on a bench, something like this: http://www.shoptours.org/member3/ds-chop-saw.jpg only not as nice looking.

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#13 posted 04-12-2011 10:22 PM

FYI…12” blades are typically more expensive, and keep in mind that you’ll want a blade with a low to negative hook angle…nothing much over +5° or so. Also, I’d suggest using a 1/8” full kerf blade because there’s increased chance of deflection due to the larger span of the 12” blade, plus the fact that crosscutting typically needs less power so there’s really less incentive to go with a TK blade for crosscutting. Keep your eyes peeled for a sweet blade deal.

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#14 posted 04-12-2011 10:38 PM

For the bench ? 12 inch. You ll end up using that saw for a lot more than you mentioned.

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#15 posted 04-12-2011 10:46 PM

I have the bosch 10” and love it. I wanted the 12” first but decided it was too expensive and too big for my situation. Given your situation I would go with the 12” slider refurb. If space is at a premium, a 12” dual bevel non slider would be best. Don’t forget the sliders take a lot of space behind the saw. If you are tight a 12” non slider makes a pretty wide cut and you could always flip the board to finish the cut. The dual bevel is important because if you are cutting on an angle and you have to flip the board you will have to bevel to saw to the same angle on the opposite side which you just cut.

The crosscut on a 12” non slider is about 10” I think and I think the Bosh 10” slider I have is about 14”. not a huge difference and some people say that non-sliders are more accurate than sliders. Something to think about I guess.

Having said all that, I’m keeping my 10” slider.

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