LumberJocks

Purchasing table saw. Suggestions?

  • Advertise with us

« back to Power Tools, Hardware and Accessories forum

Forum topic by Miloc posted 02-14-2018 07:48 PM 530 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View Miloc's profile

Miloc

5 posts in 183 days


02-14-2018 07:48 PM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw delta rigid general

Hey everyone!

I’m a level 4 carpenter but cabinet making isn’t my practice. However, I’m doing a house Reno. New bathroom kitchen, siding, windows…the works.

I’ve been doing some research of my own, searching all over for which table saw would be best.

Current use will be to making all the kitchen cabinets and my current ryobi doesn’t cut it because I can’t get a 30” rip on it so that’s the minimum I need the saw to do.

Budget is about 700-900$CAD

Contemplating:
Rigid 4512 700$
Delta 36-752 900$
1997 used Delta 34-444 which has a mobile base and extension, Biesemeyer Universal T-Square Commercial Fence System. (As the post says) 450$

Any others I should consider? I’m not sure general is in my price range. Mobility would be great.

I’ve read some better reviews of the newer delta after a couple years in production. Looking to buy in the next 3 days and thought I’d give it to the pros here to ponder.

Thanks for your time
Mike


8 replies so far

View Woodknack's profile

Woodknack

12227 posts in 2462 days


#1 posted 02-14-2018 07:54 PM

Given those choices, the new Delta. The Ridgid has a design flaw. The old Delta was a great saw but lacks modern conveniences and if you are willing to spend the money, buy new.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

View Miloc's profile

Miloc

5 posts in 183 days


#2 posted 02-15-2018 04:10 AM

There is also an option of a general 50-185 for 550$ Brand new.

I called about the delta and the guy at kms tools said delta is discontinuing and won’t have replacement parts etc..

View Woodknack's profile

Woodknack

12227 posts in 2462 days


#3 posted 02-15-2018 04:25 AM



There is also an option of a general 50-185 for 550$ Brand new.
- Miloc

General or General International? There is a difference.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

View Miloc's profile

Miloc

5 posts in 183 days


#4 posted 02-15-2018 07:41 AM

I get one is domestic and other is international.
I haven’t seen it in person yet but from the picture the box had a Big C with sa in the centre and 50-185 m1 as well.

I take it there will be noticeable markings.
If it was a General instead of a GI does that push it over from getting a delta?

A used 3650 rigid for 500$.

There has been so many mixed reviews I find it difficult to actually go with a new model and the risk of a used going wrong with out a return policy kinda sucks.

View knotscott's profile

knotscott

8099 posts in 3458 days


#5 posted 02-15-2018 11:28 AM

The General International 50-185 and Ridgid 3650 are both good examples of a traditional contractor saw. Both have the old style outboard motors, and are from the era before riving knives were required, but both are left tilt, have traditional splitters instead of a riving knife, both have solid cast iron wings, and both enjoy a well proven track record. If the GI has the General T-Square fence, it’s the equivalent of a Biesemeyer home shop fence (it would be the 50-185 M1). The Ridgid fence is decent, but not on par with the GI fence IMO. The GI motor is 15 amps, the Ridgid’s is 13 amp. The GI sold new in the $750-$800 (USD) range 12-15 years ago, and was very similar to the Powermatic PM64a and comparable Jet of the day with the Xacta fence (all Taiwanese made at the time) ...it was top rated by Fine Woodworking in the early 2000s. The Ridgid 3650 was an evolution stemming back from the Craftsman 113 Emerson made saws, then the Craftsman 315 Ryobi/TTI made saws. At near even money, I’d definitely lean toward the GI, but the Ridgid 3650 is a very serviceable saw also, plus it came stock with the Herculift.

The newer saws have some modern updates like a riving knife and an inboard motor, but both the Ridgid 4512 and Delta 36-725 have had spotty track records.

If you find a good used Canadian made General cabinet saw in your price, jump on it, but it’s unlikely. That’s simply in a different class of saw, and usually go for more money, but you never know.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

View Miloc's profile

Miloc

5 posts in 183 days


#6 posted 02-15-2018 04:11 PM

Are there any noticeable markings that distinguish it from a general Canadian and GI? I’ve tried to find information regarding the two. I’ll be viewing it tonight.

Aside from it possibly having a stamp on the front. Might be obvious but don’t want to go un prepared.

View Miloc's profile

Miloc

5 posts in 183 days


#7 posted 02-15-2018 05:44 PM

The guy just got back to me this morning and it’s a new general international base 50-185m1 but with the general Canadian made fence/guide.

View knotscott's profile

knotscott

8099 posts in 3458 days


#8 posted 02-15-2018 09:40 PM


Are there any noticeable markings that distinguish it from a general Canadian and GI? I ve tried to find information regarding the two. I ll be viewing it tonight.

Aside from it possibly having a stamp on the front. Might be obvious but don t want to go un prepared.

- Miloc

The model number 50-185 is specific to General International….it’s the left tilt version of their contractor saw. The 50-175 was the right tilt version.

The name itself is a clear indicator of which line it’s from. “General” or “General International” is spelled out in the logo. General was Canadian made, top shelf stuff, and had a Canadian flag on the front. GI was imported and was more in line with Jet, Grizzly, Shop Fox, Steel City, and other imports.


I owned a 50-185M1 for a couple of years. I actually drove to Canada near Toronto to buy it. It was a great contractor saw. Actual performance will depend a great deal on the blade to fence alignment, setup, and blade choice, but it’s got all the essentials to be a well tuned saw. The cast iron wings and the General fence are nice bonuses IMO.

Good luck, and let us know how you make out.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com