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Forum topic by DocFluty posted 02-14-2018 05:55 PM 597 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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DocFluty

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02-14-2018 05:55 PM

Topic tags/keywords: jointer powermatic laguna grizzly

I am about to splurge and buy my “last tool first” and pick up a quality jointer. I have currently come down to deciding between the Powermatic PJ-882HH, Laguna ShearTec II 8In Parallelogram (Bailiegh IJ-883P?), and the Grizzly G0490X

I like the grizzly’s price, which is half of the other two. I like the Powermatics reputation and warranty. And I like the Laguna for the 6 rows of cutters, the rotating dials to raise/lower the beds, hoisting rods like the Powermatic and also that I will be picking up a Laguna 18bx at the same time and like the idea (petty as it is) of matching tools in my shop.

I am currently about to sell my Grizzly 555lx bandsaw because I outgrew it and am going for a 18bx. I really don’t want to regret buying a lesser jointer in 1-2-3 years and wish I got the parallelogram begs, spiral head for whatever… so I am just buying the best I can right now.

The money isn’t that big of a concern… more concerned with getting something I can rely on to work, stay level and last the next 10-20-30 years.

Powermatic also has a matching rolling base, so that’s a plus. My head tells me that the Powermatic is probably the right choice, but the idea of that big out of place yellow 8-foot sled in my garage is making me cringe. I would buy at Powermatic bandsaw to match the PJ-882HH, but the Powermatic PM1500 is $1000 more than the Laguna BX and I do like the BX features more than the PM1500.

I hate those aesthetics are coming into this decision, but they are (I’m a pro photographer moving into woodworking). So what do you guys think of my choices, or do you have a different option I should consider in that price range?

Thank you.


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#1 posted 02-14-2018 06:19 PM

Jointers are pretty simple machines. There’s not a lot that can go wrong and in my opinion, anything that’s wrong would be right out box so the warranty advantage of the other machines over Grizzly to me wouldn’t make much of a difference for the price.

I would get the Grizzly and use the price difference to actually get something larger, like a 12” If you’re looking at a lifetime purchase, go big or go home, in my opinion, haha.

I’m going through a large upgrade in machinery in my shop. Started with a 6” Jointer, then got an 8” and now have a 16” old iron beast and restoring a 20” I couldn’t ignore the price on.

As time went on, my needs have changed and kept needing larger machines. Even now, a 25” planer is sitting in a box in front of my shop ready to be assembled as I’ve been having slabs larger than what my 20” planer could handle.

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#2 posted 02-14-2018 07:21 PM

Anything but the Grizzly. You’ll end up waiting at least a year or until you have one foot in the grave.

-- Aaron - Aspiring Craftsman

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eflanders

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#3 posted 02-14-2018 07:33 PM

I too need to upgrade myour jointer to an 8”. At the school I taught at we had the Powermatic helical head unit. It replaced an old Delta 6”. The powermatic was great! It is really built well and easily repaired. We had Grizzly and Jet lathes there and they were not as easy to repair as the Powermatic stuff was regardless of the vintage it was. Mind you high school shops are about as tough an environment as a machine can see as many kid cares if they break something. The shop teachers always fixed them without it costing the kid anything. We could fabricate parts easily there which we often had to do for most every machine except the powermatic stuff. We also had some Delta machines of various vintages. The Powermatic stuff just needed the least repairs overall. Now as someone said, a jointer is quite basic mechanically. So I think anyone of your choices will do you well especially if you have the ability to fabricate repair parts in 10 years when needed. If you go with the Laguna, or Grizzly that might be needed. With the Powermatic, I doubt you will ever need to do any repairs on it.

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#4 posted 02-14-2018 10:29 PM

Lazarus does have a point. Grizzly has been slow on getting things from China so depending on the model, you might have to wait a while.

As for parts, Grizzly actually stocks parts for many older machines. I bought a 20 year old 18” bandsaw just to have a narrow blade for cutting curves and I was able to get a part that was broken right away.

That said, if it came to Powermatic vs Laguna, I would choose the Powermatic over the Laguna. Laguna has had too many customer service issues over the past years but, to their credit it looks like they been working on that reputation.

Or, how about this for a curve ball. Get a very heavily built vintage machine and restore it. They’re probably one of the easiest of the woodworking machines to restore and you will have a multi lifetime machine :)

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DocFluty

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#5 posted 02-14-2018 10:37 PM

Yeah, I posted this somewhere else and people mentioned they ordered a 490x last june and am still waiting on one, so I guess thats out.

The Laguna has wheels for adjusting the height, the Powermatic has bars… the Laguna has 6 sets of shear and am not sure about the PM… i think the PM spins faster and has a better warranty.

In all honesty, the Powermatic should be the obvious choice. I still am considering the Laguna though just because it will match the BX18 bandsaw… silly reason… but a reason none the less.

I guess I will call some places to see if they actually have one of these in stock before ordering. Not really interested in waiting months.

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#6 posted 02-15-2018 10:49 PM

Of all your criteria for this tool, color matching seems least important to me. By far. Heck, I don’t even color match my shoes.

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

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#7 posted 02-16-2018 01:28 AM

I don’t think you will be disappointed with the PM. I’ve used the PM1500 and it is a nice saw. I opted for the minimax S400P in the fall when I upgraded my bandsaw but it was a difficult choice between that and the PM1500.

-- The optimist says "the glass is half full". The pessimist says "the glass is half empty". The engineer says "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be"

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