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Forum topic by Karda posted 02-11-2018 06:34 PM 488 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-11-2018 06:34 PM

when you buy turning blanks from an online dealer they are shipped coated in wax not just the ends how do you care for such a blank if it is still green and you want to let it dry thanks Mike


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#1 posted 02-11-2018 06:47 PM

The one time i bought a big box of assorted pen blanks, they were not waxed at all. Appeared to be well dried and I don’t recall any checking. Disclaimer, my wife is the turner so I didn’t do an intense examination. She did make me a pen, which I now recall developed one small split over time…

As to what to do about the wax. Again, I’m not a turner, but can’t you just let it get trimmed away as you round out the blank?

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#2 posted 02-11-2018 06:50 PM

Try scraping it off. I would leave the wax on the end grain.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#3 posted 02-11-2018 06:50 PM

Does the seller say they are green or are you just assuming that?
If I knew it was green and did not want to turn it right away I would scrape most of the wax off, put it in a heavy paper bag and store it in a cool location to allow it to dry slowly. Depending on the size it may take over a year. Otherwise you treat it as a green turning; rough it out, put in a paper bag and treat as indicated, it should only take a few months to dry. One other method is to rough it out and dry it using the microwave….instructions for that can be found on the internet. This is a method I frequently use for green wood.

At the very least the seller is trying to avoid having the wood crack, especially if it is being shipped to a different climate. For example from Main to Arizona. So even if the wood is already “dry” I would scrape most of the wax off (maybe not the end grain at first) and let the blank acclimatize to your location for a month or two.

Also ask the seller about how to treat the blank they may have some successful methods to recommend.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#4 posted 02-11-2018 06:53 PM

Turn it green, then let it dry.

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#5 posted 02-11-2018 07:02 PM

thanks the reason I am asking Is I know alot of it is green I haven’t decided what I want to get yet. I guess i will turn it green and take my chances. Its a crap shoot any way. despite end sealing it could still crack. Thanks Mike

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#6 posted 02-11-2018 07:44 PM

I purchase all of my turning stock off of E-Bay.
some of it is green and waxed and the seller clearly states that it is.
I am only turning tool handles ….. and so far I have not had any issues
going right from the delivery box to the finished product.
but – there is no way to tell how “green” are they talking about without a moisture meter.
if you are turning larger items such as bowls etc. it would be a shame for it to warp and split
after you turn it. IMO, tool handles are far more forgiving than dimensional items.

I did read an interesting article about online wood sales. there are companies that harvest
whole trees from all over the world and ship them to China from where they are cut up
into turning stock then returned back to the USA to be sold in various online stores.
so far – I have not had any issues with any wood that I have bought online. (knock on wood).
maybe it is because as soon as the tool handle is finished, a clear finish is applied which
would further protect the drying process ??? I dunno.

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#7 posted 02-11-2018 10:51 PM

Why not just ask the seller?

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#8 posted 02-12-2018 05:44 AM

Gerry I will ask when I buy the wood, don’t know what I want yet. I did buy a piece of sumac and turned it still not dry and so far no cracks. I did apply oil and beeswax finish

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#9 posted 02-17-2018 08:18 AM

They got any more sumac?....it is very lovely wood….love to get my tools
On some Sumac.

Good luck turning…be safe.

Mike

-- Mike in Bonney Lake " If you are real real real good your whole life, You 'll be buried in a curly maple coffin when you die."

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#10 posted 02-17-2018 05:27 PM

Hi, check this store I think he still has some treekiller20 yes it is a beautiful wood. I never thought it was turnable till I saw it on utube

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#11 posted 02-17-2018 09:09 PM

Vendors selling wood almost never know the MC it comes to them sealed in wax. They buy their wood by the pound but charge by species and size! Like already posted doesn’t hurt to scrap sides and leave end sealed to allow wood to reach EMC for your area.

No way of telling what the MC was when wood was sealed in wax after milling into carving or turning blanks. If scrap wax from sides and find defects can notify vendor for exchange or refund!

Some species just prone to cracking while turning or some point later on. Other species can turn the wax off and continue with your project. Too many reasons for splits, cracks, before, during, and after finish turning. Already touch about species, some just prone to do those things.

Just remember wood MC changes with water vapor in the air, wood gains & loses moisture from humidity in the air. Wood dipped in wax prevents that water vapor transfer so buying from your region of the country a better idea. Just remember too just because wood has been processed through a kiln doesn’t mean MC will remain the same!

-- Bill

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#12 posted 02-17-2018 09:34 PM

ok thanks

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