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Mourningwood

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02-11-2018 04:02 PM

Topic tags/keywords: accent mushroom hemlock nails sizes wood

Hey guys, this is my first post. I’m working on an accent wall for a client. She chose “mushroom wood”. It’s actually Hemlock. The boards are roughly an inch thick. They will be nailed into the studs, but over 5/8 Sheetrock. I will also be using an adhesive. What size nails do you recommend I use? I was hoping to keep the heads as invisible as possible. I appreciate any help you are willing to share with me. I’m a novice, and just want to deliver a safe and satisfying project. Thanks in advance.


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01ntrain

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#1 posted 02-11-2018 04:17 PM

I would think that 16 gauge nails from a pneumatic nail-gun 2-2.5” in length would do just fine. Since you’re using an adhesive, you could probably get away with 2-3 per stud. Making them pretty easy to hide. Just make sure that you’re not going into any water pipes or electrical wiring.

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jonah

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#2 posted 02-11-2018 04:27 PM

You’ll want 2.5” finish nails. 2” nails will only stick 3/8” into the studs, which isn’t enough. Anything from 15-18 gauge will be fine, especially combined with an adhesive.

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John Smith

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#3 posted 02-11-2018 04:28 PM

accent wall ???

do you mean sort of like a paneling effect ?
will the boards be horizontal or vertical ?
what size and length are the boards ? (1×6, 1×10, etc)
will anything be added to the wall like shelving, etc ?

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tomsteve

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#4 posted 02-11-2018 07:12 PM

cant offer assistance on the nails ( well, i could, but Johns questions would have to be answered first) but will suggest painting the wall a similar color to the finish before installation. as the wood expands,contracts, moves as wood does, some cracks between boards can open up revealing a thin line of the wall behind. if the wall behind is just white, it looks pretty bad. if its a similar color of the finish, its not noticable.

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Mourningwood

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#5 posted 02-13-2018 11:57 PM

Thanks guys…the boards are 1×6. They will be hun horizontal. I plan on starting at the bottom and working up so the bottom boards can somewhat support the boards above as I climb the wall. I planned on painting between the lines with a darker brown paint. Just wasnt sure if I needed to bulk up the size of the nails… I was nervous 2.5” finish nails would be too “weak”.

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John Smith

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#6 posted 02-14-2018 12:21 AM

well – you did mention you would be using an adhesive also.

with any construction adhesive, once it cures, it will never come loose.
you will pull the paper off the drywall before the wood falls off by itself.
15/16 ga X 2.5” pneumatic driven nails will be more than adequate.
if you do not have access to a pneumatic nailer, you can rent one at your tool rental place.
or – if you prefer – you can do the old fashioned hammer and 8d finish nails by hand.
how tall will this wall be ? will the wall hold anything like shelves, etc ?

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Mourningwood

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#7 posted 02-14-2018 01:46 PM



well – you did mention you would be using an adhesive also.

with any construction adhesive, once it cures, it will never come loose.
you will pull the paper off the drywall before the wood falls off by itself.
15/16 ga X 2.5” pneumatic driven nails will be more than adequate.
if you do not have access to a pneumatic nailer, you can rent one at your tool rental place.
or – if you prefer – you can do the old fashioned hammer and 8d finish nails by hand.
how tall will this wall be ? will the wall hold anything like shelves, etc ?

.

- John Smith


I already hung a tv and will be mounting an electric fireplace today..as ofbtoday, there are no shelves in the plan. On sure that could change as my clients imagination is endlessly drifting.

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John Smith

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#8 posted 02-14-2018 02:06 PM

okay – since you do not have any experience with what you are doing
and there is no way to tell what will happen to the wall after you leave,
it is strongly suggested that you go to your Big Box Store and get a couple of pounds
of #8×3 in. Phillips Bugle-Head Coarse Thread Wood Screws and screw each board to the studs.
this will relieve your tension level and provide your customer a good and safe product.
the screws can be driven just a tad below the surface of the wood and will be almost invisible.
if you and your client are really that picky about the fastener being hidden, you can get some
wood filler the same color s the boards and fill over each screw head.
what you need to do for now is get a spare board and practice to see what will work for you within your skill set.

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Mourningwood

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#9 posted 02-14-2018 02:14 PM


well – you did mention you would be using an adhesive also.

with any construction adhesive, once it cures, it will never come loose.
you will pull the paper off the drywall before the wood falls off by itself.
15/16 ga X 2.5” pneumatic driven nails will be more than adequate.
if you do not have access to a pneumatic nailer, you can rent one at your tool rental place.
or – if you prefer – you can do the old fashioned hammer and 8d finish nails by hand.
how tall will this wall be ? will the wall hold anything like shelves, etc ?

.

- John Smith


I already hung a tv and will be mounting an electric fireplace today..as ofbtoday, there are no shelves in the plan. On sure that could change as my clients imagination is endlessly drifting.

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Kazooman

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#10 posted 02-14-2018 02:18 PM



Thanks guys…the boards are 1×6. They will be hun horizontal. I plan on starting at the bottom and working up so the bottom boards can somewhat support the boards above as I climb the wall. I planned on painting between the lines with a darker brown paint. Just wasnt sure if I needed to bulk up the size of the nails… I was nervous 2.5” finish nails would be too “weak”.

- Mourningwood

It sounds like you plan to butt the edges of the boards up tight to each other. Have you thought about the potential for expansion?

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Mourningwood

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#11 posted 02-14-2018 02:19 PM



okay – since you do not have any experience with what you are doing
and there is no way to tell what will happen to the wall after you leave,
it is strongly suggested that you go to your Big Box Store and get a couple of pounds
of #8×3 in. Phillips Bugle-Head Coarse Thread Wood Screws and screw each board to the studs.
this will relieve your tension level and provide your customer a good and safe product.
the screws can be driven just a tad below the surface of the wood and will be almost invisible.
if you and your client are really that picky about the fastener being hidden, you can get some
wood filler the same color s the boards and fill over each screw head.
what you need to do for now is get a spare board and practice to see what will work for you within your skill set.

- John Smith

You’re correct that I don’t have any experience with these accent walls, but I do a lot of work in this field. I was really just questioning the shear strength of the finish nails. I have total confidence in my abilities using these nails. My lack of confidence was with the nails themselves. If 2.5” finish nails are strong enough for this project, that is the route ill be taking. Thanks for your help.

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Mourningwood

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#12 posted 02-14-2018 02:22 PM


Thanks guys…the boards are 1×6. They will be hun horizontal. I plan on starting at the bottom and working up so the bottom boards can somewhat support the boards above as I climb the wall. I planned on painting between the lines with a darker brown paint. Just wasnt sure if I needed to bulk up the size of the nails… I was nervous 2.5” finish nails would be too “weak”.

- Mourningwood

It sounds like you plan to butt the edges of the boards up tight to each other. Have you thought about the potential for expansion?

- Kazooman


I did plan to leave a slight gap…what would you recommend?

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Kazooman

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#13 posted 02-14-2018 03:03 PM

I don’t have a specific gap in mind, I just know you should have some allowance for expansion. You can find how much a six inch hemlock board can expand on-line, but it really depends on the moisture content of the wood when you install it and what kind of humidity swings it will see. I would bring the wood on to the site and allow it to acclimate just like you would when installing flooring. It is the winter heating season here and the humidity in the house is low. There are a few gaps between boards in my maple floor. They will be game by Spring when we open the windows for some fresh air.

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Mourningwood

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#14 posted 02-14-2018 03:15 PM



I don’t have a specific gap in mind, I just know you should have some allowance for expansion. You can find how much a six inch hemlock board can expand on-line, but it really depends on the moisture content of the wood when you install it and what kind of humidity swings it will see. I would bring the wood on to the site and allow it to acclimate just like you would when installing flooring. It is the winter heating season here and the humidity in the house is low. There are a few gaps between boards in my maple floor. They will be game by Spring when we open the windows for some fresh air.

- Kazooman


I put the wood in the house two weeks ago to acclimate. We were waiting on the fireplace to be delivered. Im going to look up expansion rate now… Thanks a lot.

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WyattCo

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#15 posted 02-14-2018 03:55 PM

What adhesive?

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