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1190 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: plane

There is an auction in town here on Saturday – they mention: Stanley planes inc.: (45, H1204, 191, 122, 220, 0120, 6, 3, 52, 8, 4, 78); other planes inc.: Dunlap 107, Craftsman, Union, Miller Falls, Lakeside,
Are there any I should consider – I haven’t seen condition or picked any up but is there an case where “If you can find a stanley XX -—buy it?”
below is all I have seen of it from their on line sale bill.

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison


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Bertha

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#1 posted 1190 days ago

I’d look hard at all of the Stanleys. Unfortunately, there are too many examples of “buy a Stanley * immediately on sight”. The 191 is kind of a neat rabbet, as is the 78. The 45 is hit or miss, depending upon condition, spurs, cutters, depth stop, etc. Forget the H1204. The 122 isn’t very useful but it’s a neat plane that I’d like to own. The 220 is a standard Stanley block & one of my go-to’s. The 120 doesn’t get me excited. The 6 is an excellent fore plane with tons of use potential. The 3 is a small smoother. The 78 is a standard rabbet. I’m sure you know the 4 is the most common smoother. The 8 is the best jointer in the world (IMHO). OK now…

Are you sure they list a 52? If that’s not a typo and it’s the chute board, I would pay big bucks even in poor condition. I apologize that I don’t know you better DrDirt & don’t know if you’re a plane guy, so forgive me: if it’s a big blocky odd looking monster, then you want it. Of course, all of this depends on condition but I’d pay several hundred $ for a 52 rusted out.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#2 posted 1190 days ago

Al – thanks for the feedback – I am mostly looking for USERS rather than collecting. WHen I saw that this seems to be a old shop with a fair number of planes – I am looking for a smoother, a rabbet plane and ideally buried in there somewhere is a routerplane.
But like you mentioned the 52 – I am not knowledgable of what the real ‘jewels’ are out there and would hate to find out that soe 1000 dollar plane I pass over sells for 10 bucks to be used as a paperweight

Dave

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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#3 posted 1190 days ago

I got you Doc, if there’s a real 52 there & it looks weird, I’d try to snag it. In terms of users like you mention, my primary plane users are the #8, the #6, and the #4. Many will point out that the #5’s not in there & although I use the #5 alot, I tend to like the #6 better. The #3’s the smaller cousin of the #4 & I’ll pull it out here & there. The #78 is a solid rabbet; check to see if the nicker spurs are in place; because if not, you won’t be very happy with the performance. I could run off at the mouth for days but if you can score this whole lot for a decent price, assuming they’re competent user quality, you’d be well on your way to the disease, my friend.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#4 posted 1189 days ago

THanks Al….. If the disease really takes hold perhaps SWMBO my financial ‘adviser’ wouldn’t be as happy as I am.
But at the same time she is going to Marc Adams’ school next week for a turning class. So the woodworking bug isn’t just me :-)

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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#5 posted 1189 days ago

The Adams school? No, someone’s definitely been bit. My fiance really likes to turn but she’s scared of the machine unsupervised. I’m working up to it, though, and as my financial “adviser”, maybe she’ll spring for a big One Way :)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#6 posted 1189 days ago

Dave,I just looked at your profile and from what I saw there you don’t have a big issue with the financial ‘adviser’ as far as tool buying goes.
And by the way does she have a sister that’s single and has the same likeing for woodworking as her? I could use one of those. LOL

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#7 posted 1189 days ago

Richard I am extraordinarily lucky. Her dad was the math and shop teacher and for extra money made dogsleds sewn together with wet moosehide for the racers.
he is a consummate perfectionist that demands a no shortcuts approach in wood..auto repair/maintenance and such.

So she inherited that too….but I still need ‘approval’ ;-)
Sorry the sister is married but I got the good one!

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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#8 posted 1189 days ago

^Wow, I like the whole family!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#9 posted 1189 days ago

The thing to watch out for are the economy versions of otherwise good brands. Ie: I’d stick with the Millers Falls planes that have a number that correlates to the length of the plane….MF #14 is 14” long and is a Stanley #5 equivalent…their #140 is an econo version (usually 3 digits indicates an ecomo model). Stanley has several econo models…stick with the Bedrocks and Bailey’s (preferably pre 1950’s or so). Things like plastic handles, painted handles, and decals instead of embossing are often indicators of a lesser model. Some can still be worth the price… cheapies from yesteryear tend be made better than today’s “bargains”.


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#10 posted 1186 days ago

Hey Drdirt – where did you find the information for that auction? I’m in the KC area and I’ve been wanting to find some auctions/estate sales around here to try and get some good deals, but haven’t had much luck so far.

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#11 posted 1186 days ago

Duffman – here locally many of the auctions are posted online at KSALlink.com

http://www.ksallink.com/pages/?page=auctions

This one was listed in the buyers guide – which is a free little classified paper that is delivered every thursday
I was originally drawn to it because they were also selling a 1952 Willys Jeep….but that was MUCH MUCH more of a project than it looked in the photos. Seats and roof were bare springs and the engine was half dismantled. I didn’t even stick around to see how much it went for. I couldn’t harldy imagine how many ‘rare’ parts it was going to need – not like you can just go down to NAPA.

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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#12 posted 1186 days ago

Hopefully there will not be too many woodworkers at the auction. I would not go crazy bidding. A lot of the planes listed above would not be used on a day to day basis. You may want to start with a list of recommended planes and fill them in one at a time as you come across them. But if the price is reasonable….

Info on the #52 can be found here.

http://www.supertool.com/stanleybg/stan7.htm

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#13 posted 1186 days ago

^man, I’d love to have that 52.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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