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FrogHouse

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02-09-2018 01:59 PM

Topic tags/keywords: plane low-angle woodriver stanley veritas handplane lie-nielsen question

Hey all, I was hoping to get an opinion on a new acquisition for the FrogHouse shop. I have decided it is time to add a low angle jack plane to my hand plane collection. The only problem, I am undecided on which brand to get: the Woodriver, the Stanley, the Veritas, or the Lie-Nielsen. I know that YouTube is populated with individual reviews of each, but only a few that compares them. At the moment the Woodriver is on the bottom of the list due to quality-for-price. Many of my other hand planes are Stanley’s, but they are old Stanley’s and I hear that the new tools don’t always have the same quality. My budget does allow for the Veritas or the Lie-Nielsen, but I wonder if the quality is THAT superior. I then think that if I get the Stanley, I will have enough in the budget for another plane.

I would love to hear what your opinion/experience is on the topic, and which would you get (and why).

Kirk,
The Frog-House Shop

-- -- Kirk


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dhazelton

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#1 posted 02-09-2018 02:02 PM

You can get an older Stanley for five or ten bucks if you look around.

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#2 posted 02-09-2018 02:30 PM

You’ll be looking forever if you think you’ll find a low angle jack for five or ten bucks, dhazelton.

Kirk, based on what I’ve read on the new Stanley LAJ, it’s all about initial quality. They’re a bit hit-or-miss, so if you go that way be prepared to return it if it’s just not right and get another.

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gargey

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#3 posted 02-09-2018 02:34 PM

Get a high quality tool and it’ll sting for a minute but you won’t regret it for the many years you use it.

Get something less than ideal to save a few bucks and you might wonder what could have been, or worse, spend more by buying the high quality one after.

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#4 posted 02-09-2018 02:45 PM



You can get an older Stanley for five or ten bucks if you look around.

- dhazelton

I’d like to think you may be talking about a standard jack. If you find a vintage LAJ for five or ten dollars, please tell me where you are looking so I can get my share…

-- When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there is no end to what you CAN'T do

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Dwain

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#5 posted 02-09-2018 02:47 PM

Oh, FrogHouse, get the Veritas or the Lie Niielsen. You will be happy forever. Other planes, like a jack, smoother or jointer can be had later, and for less. These are plentiful in the vintage market. Get the best LAJ you can as the difference in quality is quite clear, and there are exceptionally few vintage options to be found at a reasonable price.

-- When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there is no end to what you CAN'T do

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BlasterStumps

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#6 posted 02-09-2018 02:58 PM

There’s a 62 on Etsy, $199 plus shipping from the Ukraine

I have a Veritas low-angle Jack plane that I affectionately call my plane of last resort because when I can’t seem to get the job done with anything else, I grab the Veritas. It’s kind of like cheating at hand tool woodworking.

-- "I build for function first, looks second. Most times I never get around to looks." - Mike, western Colorado

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#7 posted 02-09-2018 05:16 PM

Can’t go wrong with veritas or LN. Yes they are definitely worth it if you go that route.

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JADobson

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#8 posted 02-09-2018 05:24 PM

I have the Veritas. It was a little more expensive yes, but it has been a joy to use. There is nothing about it I don’t like.

-- No craft is very far from the line beyond which is magic. -- Lord Dunsany

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tshiker

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#9 posted 02-09-2018 06:06 PM

I have the new Stanley Sweetheart 62 as well as a vintage one. I won ($45) the vintage 62 about 2 year’s ago and except for a broken tote ( which is unique to the 62 I think) is in fantastic condition so it sits on a shelf looking pretty! I received the newer 62 as a Christmas gift that same year. The new 62 is much, much heavier than the vintage one. The casting and the blade (A2) on the new one are much thicker! The original new 62 I got as a gift had to be returned due to the fact I could not square the blade to the mouth without a very significant skew ground on the blade. The frog and the body are one casting on this plane and even with the lateral lever It just didn’t work. Returned it to Home Depot and got a new one from Walmart. This one is perfect as far as castings go but just as heavy. If you look around and are patient you can find them for under $120 shipped. I have never used a LN or Veritas.

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Andre

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#10 posted 02-09-2018 06:24 PM

My #1 game changer is the Veritas PMV-11 irons! Love my L.N. 102 and then 60 1/2 Rabbit, but wish they had
PMV-11 irons! I do have a Stanley 60 1/2 which has the PMV-11 iron but it has been upstaged by a DX60.

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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Turkeyfeather

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#11 posted 02-10-2018 06:35 AM

I have owned the Lie-Nielsen for a few years and love it. If you buy it I would recommend buying the extra iron with the increased angle for eliminating tearout on hardwoods. I also purchased the scraper and toothed irons to play with. The scraper is fun but not necessary. The toothed blade fills up and has to be cleaned a lot. This plane also works much better if you adjust your mouth clearances properly.

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bbasiaga

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#12 posted 02-10-2018 02:15 PM

I got the LN, and my brother has the LV. I have handled the Woodriver and stanley. I would not buy either of those last ones.

The LV is bigger and heavier. You may like that. The LN is just perfect for me though. Light enough to bring to the work but heavy enough to stay in the cut. Fit and finish is flawless on both. Definitely worth buying for a little more $ over the wood river.

Brian

-- Part of engineering is to know when to put your calculator down and pick up your tools.

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JP4LSU

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#13 posted 02-10-2018 05:09 PM

Hey Froghouse,
I found this channel on youtube. He compares the bench and LAJ for LN and Veritas.
He actually selects the LN for a bench plane Veritas for LAJ.
He is an informative guy and provides very good instructional videos that iv found helpful. Despite being around 23-25 he is quite knowledgeable which is good to see from young guys.

Link to comparison is
https://youtu.be/dcW0bqmmPts

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Andre

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#14 posted 02-10-2018 09:17 PM



Hey Froghouse,
I found this channel on youtube. He compares the bench and LAJ for LN and Veritas.
He actually selects the LN for a bench plane Veritas for LAJ.
He is an informative guy and provides very good instructional videos that iv found helpful. Despite being around 23-25 he is quite knowledgeable which is good to see from young guys.

Link to comparison is
https://youtu.be/dcW0bqmmPts

- JP4LSU

Actually pretty good! As with, everyone and everthing, personnal opinion and preference account for a lot.
Oh and not all A-1, O-2 are made the same, PMV-11 being the new one is very consisitent so far, this might change with the increased demand but I hope not?

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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FrogHouse

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#15 posted 02-10-2018 10:01 PM

Thanks to all for your input. I am leaning to the Ver. With the PMV11. Thought the idea of owning a LN is tempting.

-- -- Kirk

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