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pontic

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02-09-2018 01:19 AM

My vet came to me and asked if I could finish a Tack Box project for him. Apparently the guy who he hired took the money and then dumped the unfinished project on his porch. So in a moment of foolishness I told him to bring them over. One was done. The other no lid the other no trim and no lid. No oak for the rest of the job either.
The in finished box isn’t square so I have to custom cut all the beveled corners. Bottom is butted up to the sides glued and nail gunned to the sides. Trays are made the same way and wobble. I’m not going to make new boxes. Made new tray with Miter and spline corners and dado’ed in floor of 1/4” oak ply wood. Put oak banding on the edges.
The lid design weighs about 15lbs and is 22”X33” He wants soft close top so his grand kids wont hit their head when they open the box. Gas closers he purchased are not stout enough to achieve this. Any on know a source where I can get gas closing rods that are stout enough to handle a lid like this?Yea I know no good deed goes unpunished.

-- Illigitimii non carburundum sum


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John_H

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#1 posted 02-09-2018 03:29 AM

If your looking for what I would call a ‘gas spring’ – take a look at McMaster Carr

Here is an example of what they have:
https://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/124/1298/=1bhlj8m

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Tennessee

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#2 posted 02-09-2018 01:18 PM

Every so often someone brings me a guitar, mandolin, whatever, that they tried to fix themselves, failed, then I get contacted.
I’ve learned the hard way spending way too much time trying to fix other’s mistakes. Mostly I look it over, shake my head, and tell them that I can’t do it, since they did this or that, which generally ruins the instrument. I especially liked the guy who brought me a guitar with a loose neck, save that he had tried to glue it back with metal bond epoxy. He told me it was all he had around the house…

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN

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jeffswildwood

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#3 posted 02-09-2018 01:35 PM

Wow, I hope this never happens to me. I have enough trouble fixing MY mistakes to try to fix someone else’s. My biggest problem is someone finding something on amazon and ask if I can build one. The price on amazon may be, let’s say $25.00. I look it over and say $40.00. They don’t understand why I can’t build it cheaper.

-- We all make mistakes, the trick is to fix it in a way that says "I meant to do that".

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DocSavage45

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#4 posted 02-09-2018 07:05 PM

Hope he is paying for the new work. He should go after this guy but I’m guessing there is no contract. Hope you find a fix.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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helluvawreck

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#5 posted 02-09-2018 07:21 PM

That is a raw deal and I hope it works out for the both of you. Maybe you won’t loose to much.

helluvawreck aka Charles
http://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

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Loren

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#6 posted 02-09-2018 07:30 PM

I’ve done it a few times and it was always
an unpleasant experience of bending over
backwards trying make an already unhappy
person happy.

I hope you find it interesting or well-compensated
enough to not resent it.

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JoeRPhilly

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#7 posted 02-09-2018 07:43 PM

Not sure if they would work in this situation, but might want to check out the rockler torsion hinges, pretty sure they would hold the weight

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#8 posted 02-09-2018 07:53 PM

pontic, I agree your situation kinda sucks. Good luck, I hope your vet friend appreciates what he asked of you.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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Ocelot

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#9 posted 02-09-2018 09:36 PM

Auto parts stores sell gas springs for trunk lids which are often quite reasonable.

At your favorite online auto parts store, search for “lift support”. You may have to make up a vehicle to get a price.

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pontic

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#10 posted 02-10-2018 01:28 AM

Thanks all. I think I have to weigh the lids to get a properly sized “Gas spring” and I’m leaning toward Ocelot’s suggestion. Auto trunk gas springs will probably be the strongest to do the job and most reasonably priced.
Thanks all. I have gotten all the wood work done. If he had come to me first. only his Grandson would have gotten a tack box. His daughter knows us and has seen my blanket chests and would rather have had “Dad” make the girls one of those each. With the Face of a Australian Cattle dog carved on the front. So I guess I will be making two of those in the future. Maybe Get to sell some of that “Flame box elder” for that project since it carves better than cherry.

-- Illigitimii non carburundum sum

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pontic

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#11 posted 03-04-2018 09:56 PM

Ok. I finished them. He liked them a lot, go figure. Reimbursed me for my materials.

-- Illigitimii non carburundum sum

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Gene Howe

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#12 posted 03-04-2018 10:17 PM

Looks like a great save. Really good looking tack box.
I hope that when one of your animals needs his service, you get the same deal.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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woodworm1962

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#13 posted 03-04-2018 10:22 PM

Always good to have a VET as a friend that owes you a few favors….

-- No one likes the truth...

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pontic

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#14 posted 03-04-2018 10:32 PM

Yes we have been friends for over 20 years. I’m the only one he makes “farm calls “to. Gives the goats the shots and Castrations.

-- Illigitimii non carburundum sum

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