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Forum topic by Rob_s posted 02-07-2018 02:11 PM 1578 views 0 times favorited 54 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Rob_s

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02-07-2018 02:11 PM

I realize this is a common topic but I wanted to talk specifically about my situation.

I’m asking for two, 200v 20 amp outlets in my shop. I have block walls and new conduit will need to be run. I have two existing 220v circuits in the panel that aren’t being used that can be changed out to 20 amp breakers. The conduit run is ~45 feet total. I’ve asked for 10 gauge wire in case I want to increase the amps later on.

They’re wanting $2,300 for this. Seems incredibly high to me, but I’m assuming the majority of that is the labor to install the conduit.

I’m interested in feedback on the price relative to the scope.

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johnstoneb

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#1 posted 02-07-2018 02:15 PM

Get a breakdown on the bid then get more than one bid.

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Redoak49

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#2 posted 02-07-2018 02:24 PM

That sounds very high to me. Is there some complication with the breaker box, running the conduit or something else?

If it were me I would do it myself.

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WhyMe

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#3 posted 02-07-2018 02:56 PM

If following code is desired then a 240V 20A outlet circuit with multiple outlets is not to be more than 20A. If wanting to convert to 30A or higher outlets then it can only be a single outlet per circuit. I’m not sure from your post if you have dedicated circuits or multi-outlet circuits.

Oh… and $2300 does sound high. Not knowing the details I’d think no more than $1500.

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Loren

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#4 posted 02-07-2018 03:15 PM

You could do something like hire an “electrician’s
helper” from Craigslist to help you install the
conduit and pull the wires. Lots of guys learned
how to do that work but never formally apprenticed
so they can’t get licensed.

You can get an electrician to check it over and
hook it up if you want. Most of the work is drilling
holes and bending conduit in a job like this, unless
there’s some complication you didn’t mention.

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GR8HUNTER

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#5 posted 02-07-2018 03:20 PM

TOO MUCH MONEY …as Loren said find a CL Sparkie …get it done for 100.00 if you supply materials …even offer to help him and learn as you go …......GOOD LUCK :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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TangoFox

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#6 posted 02-07-2018 03:24 PM

I just had 220 run in my shop (new house, new garage, not enough power) not very long ago. It was $2800 to completely replace the house’s main breaker panel (roughly half the total cost), and run 2 220v outlets and a handful of extra 120v outlets. That estimate was a little on the high side, but wanted to go with that bid based on previous positive experience with that electrician.

In hindsight, I would have done a lot of the prep work myself. I just wasn’t experienced enough with anything even remotely resembling electrical work for my wife to trust me with it!

My best advice is to get another quote or two and shop around. I’d also go with Loren’s suggestion and hire some lower-cost help to take care of some of the prep work – or just do some of it yourself.

-Ian

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Fresch

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#7 posted 02-07-2018 04:11 PM

Your in Fla. if it took 8hrs. @ $100/hr. =$800

Material? $300
Inspection $200
Total $1300
Is your shop attached to the house or free standing?
Need more info.

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jonah

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#8 posted 02-07-2018 04:19 PM

Seems high but not outrageous to me.

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YesHaveSome

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#9 posted 02-07-2018 04:20 PM

If you’re comfortable working with electrical, do it yourself. I just installed a sub panel, new lighting, a whole bunch of outlets and a mini split in my garage shop using EMT conduit. Hired an electrician to come over and spec everything out and pull the permits and then come check on my work. That cost me $500. Doing it all myself probably saved $3-4k.

The conduit bending can be a little tricky but there’s a great app that tells you where and how to make your bends.

-- But where does the meat go?

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buckbuster31

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#10 posted 02-07-2018 04:35 PM

I had two put in.. 220 dollars

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buckbuster31

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#11 posted 02-07-2018 04:36 PM

mine was 12 gauge and only about 50 total feet


I had two put in.. 220 dollars

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CaptainKlutz

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#12 posted 02-07-2018 04:54 PM

+1 get more quotes and provide details.

If you only need to run 2 circuits 50 ft in conduit without a new building permit, this is really high.
If you need to upgrade main panel, run a sub-panel, change service, or are making changes that require a permit, then it might be 100% fair price?
Only more detail will allow forum to accurately judge the price?

FWIW – Parts cost for a simple (2) 30 amp circuit 100’ conduit install is <$350 at BORG prices, less @ wholesale. There has to be something big involved in job to justify a ~$2000 labor bill?

Could be you received a typical “Thanks for asking, but I do not want that work right now” quote, which is commonly 2-3x actual parts & labor costs required for them to stop/delay current projects to work on your small job?

Best Luck.

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coxhaus

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#13 posted 02-07-2018 05:10 PM

I bought and installed my 220v wire. I let the electrician connect it to the breaker box. Since I only had to pay his time for connecting to the breaker box it was a lot cheaper.

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Sludgeguy

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#14 posted 02-07-2018 05:29 PM

I had an electrical guy give me a list of materials and walk me through it. I installed only one 60 amp outlet for a welder. It took about 2 hours and was pretty easy. I would look for an electrician who is doing work on the side from his regular job and pay him $300 to $500. Unless you’re running a lot of conduit and wire material cost will be minimal.

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TheFridge

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#15 posted 02-07-2018 05:36 PM

He’s robbing you. 1500$ max. And that’s still high. If I did it in the side it would be me more than 800$ unless your panel is on the other side of the house.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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