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Forum topic by Charliefreak posted 02-06-2018 03:53 PM 1499 views 0 times favorited 34 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Charliefreak

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02-06-2018 03:53 PM

This just popped into my inbox, and made me think “I definitely want one of those”. Then I followed the link and discovered that it was $230.

Precision framing square from Woodcraft / Woodpecker

Does anyone know of a good similar / equivalent product that isn’t so eye-wateringly expensive. A long, accurate square that can sit on one edge and can also square up to the edge of sheet goods would be a really useful thing for the work I do.


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#1 posted 02-06-2018 03:59 PM

Not the same thing, but big, square and
possible to modify easily.

https://www.andersonplywood.com/square-for-festool-mft-square/

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#2 posted 02-06-2018 04:03 PM

Or I suppose I could make something similar myself… but then how do I check that it’s square without a square :)

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#3 posted 02-06-2018 04:07 PM


Or I suppose I could make something similar myself… but then how do I check that it s square without a square :)

- Charliefreak

The same way you’d check any square—

1. Put one leg of the square against a known straight edge, then draw a line along the other leg.

2. Flip it over and draw another line near the original line.

3. If the 2 lines are anything other than parallel, the “square” is not square

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#4 posted 02-06-2018 06:35 PM

you aren’t going to get .001” per foot accuracy that way :)

I have several Woodpecker products. They are great. I lust for this one, but it’s just too much!

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#5 posted 02-06-2018 06:49 PM

I really want the set, but the thought of telling my wife I spent $400 on them is giving me anxiety.

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#6 posted 02-06-2018 07:07 PM

If you want to improve the accuracy of the checking method described above. Extend the lines by butting up a good straightedge to the square.

-- Sawdust Maker

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#7 posted 02-06-2018 07:25 PM

Woodcraft also sells a $15 Starrett framing square that is perfectly square. I know which one I’d rather buy.

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#8 posted 02-06-2018 07:26 PM

Get a nice carpenter’s square and a set of stair gauges and you’re all set. Look for readability and cleanly etched markings. If you get it home and it’s a little out of square, you can tweak it with a center punch. Search around for a tutorial on how.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#9 posted 02-06-2018 07:30 PM

That’s a great tip! Stair gauges… brilliant.

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#10 posted 02-06-2018 07:43 PM

I know what used stair gauges are, but never used them before. How would you use them in check a framing square for accuracy?

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#11 posted 02-06-2018 07:51 PM


I know what used stair gauges are, but never used them before. How would you use them in check a framing square for accuracy?

- Gene Howe

They basically just add a lip to the square. That way you can lay it on the surface of a board and have them hook the edge, rather than trying to have one leg down on the front edge of the board.

It would be a good idea to do the square check with them attached to make sure you can draw good lines square to an edge. Obviously for inside and outside square checking you can leave them off.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#12 posted 02-06-2018 08:09 PM

Didn’t see it at Woodcraft and was ready to call you out, but there is one on Amazon for about that price!

Answers to one of the questions indicates it was made in China. Several reviews mention it being out of square. be cool if it turned out to be American made and typical Starrett quality.

All of that aside, it’s not RED and doesn’t come with a fitted MDF storage “case” (I’m assuming Woodpecker tricks it out like they do the other squares for which I paid entirely too much).


Woodcraft also sells a $15 Starrett framing square that is perfectly square. I know which one I’d rather buy.

- jonah


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Charliefreak

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#13 posted 02-06-2018 08:17 PM

The fitted mdf storage case actually runs you an extra $40!

As previous poster said, I’d love to be able to:

(a) hook the square onto the edge of a board and know that it is indeed square there (rather than lining it up with my fingers like I currently do

(b) be able to stand the square up on one edge and have it stay put, the way an engineer’s square does.

I’m going to give the stair gauges a try as they might achieve both of those things.

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#14 posted 02-06-2018 08:24 PM

I DID buy that Starrett framing square. Very happy with it. I’m going to go out and burn $5 on a set of stair gauges and get more use from it. By the way, Starrett sells stair gauges… for $42.00! I love Starrett, but I ain’t investing in that.

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#15 posted 02-06-2018 08:26 PM

This is what I’m talking about. They call it a “rafter square” for some unknown reason. Made in the USA and mine is absolutely square as can be (or as close as I can see with 20/15 vision).

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/starrett-tempered-steel-rafter-square

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