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JackStraw42

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02-05-2018 12:09 AM

Heya! So this was my very first try at using veneer. I’m making a lighted cocktail menu, using a paduak veneer over plywood. In a couple places i managed to over-sand to the point where the plywood is showing. I don’t have enough veneer left to scrap it and start over. I was thinking maybe i could use a marker or pencil or stain to color the spots. What would you guys recommend?

Thanks for any advice you can offer!


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#1 posted 02-05-2018 12:21 AM

My first thought was a slight chamfered edge followed by some dark stain, but the chamber might effect the “logo” at the bottom. Perhaps a dark glaze over the whole frame would mask the over sanded areas.

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#2 posted 02-05-2018 12:23 AM

yep – you could use a marker or pencil or stain to color the spots.

if you are going to be doing much of this work, you may want to invest
into a few color sticks to have on hand. . . . . just in case.

.

-- I started out with nothing in life ~ and still have most of it left.

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#3 posted 02-05-2018 12:24 AM

I’ve used acrylic paints. Mix up some color
and dry brush it on.

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#4 posted 02-05-2018 12:43 AM

I agree with Loren, acrylics are the way to go.
With a few colors, you should be able to blend a good match.

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#5 posted 02-05-2018 12:44 AM

I’d go with a two step process. First, replace the color. For that, you can use Mohawk Blendal Sticks. They are available in a wide array of colors (over thirty) — far more than the six or eight found in hobby sets. Next, Mohawk brush tip graining markers will allow you to add some grain effect for a more realistic appearance. I did a review for them here. There is a video link in the review to show the magic you can do with the brush tip markers. In fact, you could do the whole job with them, but I find the Blendal sticks to be much easier to use for base coloring, especially along edges like yours.

There are videos for Blendal sticks too. Just search on youtube.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#6 posted 02-05-2018 12:47 AM

I change my answer, I agree with Rich lol
blend sticks are the professional way to go about it,
but the acrylics might be easier to use for the un-experienced.

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#7 posted 02-05-2018 01:21 AM

Take a 1/8” square rebate out of the edge all the way around and glue in a contrasting strip of solid. You could use solid Padauk of course but a black or white would frame it very nicely. It would also protect the veneer edge from abuse.
You need to be very careful with modern 1/42” veneers. They are not forgiving.

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#8 posted 02-05-2018 01:47 AM


Take a 1/8” square rebate out of the edge all the way around and glue in a contrasting strip of solid. You could use solid Padauk of course but a black or white would frame it very nicely. It would also protect the veneer edge from abuse.
You need to be very careful with modern 1/42” veneers. They are not forgiving.

- shipwright

Done right, this would look like a million bucks. It would also be much easier than trying to blend colors. Be sure to use hide glue, right Paul?

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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JackStraw42

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#9 posted 02-05-2018 03:10 AM

Wow, you guys are awesome! Thanks for all the replies/advice! I have plenty of leftover scrap veneer i can test with. I love the 1/8” frame idea, but i don’t think it would work with my logo placement. I’ll look more into these other options and do some testing. Thanks again!

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#10 posted 02-05-2018 03:43 AM

Cut the rebate across the top and down the sides but just add a 1/8” X plywood thickness strip on the bottom.
You have no sandthrough there.
Or for that matter cut 1/8” right off just the sides and add the full thickness of the plywood X 1/8” all the way around.
Lots of ways to skin a cat.

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#11 posted 02-05-2018 04:25 AM



I change my answer, I agree with Rich lol
blend sticks are the professional way to go about it,
but the acrylics might be easier to use for the un-experienced.

- jbay


Mohawk is great products …but need to be an artist to cover up sand through :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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#12 posted 02-05-2018 05:50 AM

Mohawk is great products …but need to be an artist to cover up sand through :<))

- GR8HUNTER

Tony, I can’t sketch my way out of a wet paper sack, but I’m amazed at the ease with which I can use those products to produce virtually non-detectable repairs. Sometimes it’s fixing a flaw in my finishing, and sometimes it’s covering up a flaw in the way the wood took some dye. The results are pretty amazing. Even I have trouble finding the touch-ups when I go looking for them.

Mohawk has an extensive collection of youtube videos, as do other vendors. You can order their DVD for $10 with free shipping as well. I’ve spent dozens of hours, maybe even into the hundreds, watching and re-watching them to learn the tips and tricks. I think anyone who devotes the time to learning can do just as well.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#13 posted 02-05-2018 08:57 AM

I HATE WHEN THAT HAPPENS! Rich and the crew always have great advice. Decide on the technique you want to use but I’d stay away from using anything that involves metal or the word cut. Just blend the color, add some finish and leave it alone and for goodness sake don’t get it any closer than 5’ from any grit of sandpaper. Just remember that even when you’re done, to your eye it looks like a mole. To anybody else it isn’t even a pimple.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#14 posted 02-05-2018 07:39 PM

Seriously, though, if you run your finger or a paper towel along there and blend it with a stain or one of the suggested methods that’s a similar color nobody will ever notice it other than you. Your eye is just drawn to it. Might take a few coats to blend it. Anything other than that will only make it worse IMO. I now treat commercial veneer like it’s gossamer tissue paper and if I do sand it the edges never see a power tool. Ask me how I know this! :-)

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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