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Hermit

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02-02-2018 11:27 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw box

I’ve only made one. Watched tons of videos but no one addresses the following…when you cut off the back/fronts, do you sand each piece before you glue them back together?

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gwilki

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#1 posted 02-03-2018 12:09 AM

I don’t. I want the pieces to match up perfectly and if I sanded them, there is a risk that they would not be perfectly flat, so they would not match up. You could joint them, I suppose, or sand them on a large disk to ensure they are flat. Doing nothing, though, is easier and the pieces must match perfectly. They are mirror images of the same cut.

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#2 posted 02-03-2018 01:48 AM



I don t. I want the pieces to match up perfectly and if I sanded them, there is a risk that they would not be perfectly flat, so they would not match up. You could joint them, I suppose, or sand them on a large disk to ensure they are flat. Doing nothing, though, is easier and the pieces must match perfectly. They are mirror images of the same cut.

- gwilki

Well said.

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#3 posted 02-03-2018 12:03 PM

Last year I made over 30 bandsaw boxes and soon learned that there is an awful amount of sanding required. Inside and out. I cut this sanding down, by a lot, by only sanding the outside of the box and the outside of the drawers. The inside of the box, and of the drawers, I applied flocking and that doesn’t require sanding. Flocking this way also makes the drawers slide in and out very smoothly.

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wncguy

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#4 posted 02-03-2018 01:52 PM

I agree with Grant & that is my approach too for the same reasons.

Jim, what process do you use for flocking, I really need to try it. Thanks.

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#5 posted 02-03-2018 02:21 PM

I don’t made band saw boxes but it would make sense not to sand. Have a good fit.

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Gene Howe

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#6 posted 02-03-2018 02:31 PM

WNCguy, I’m not Jim….but I did stay in a Holiday Inn once.
Here is a site for you. Good stuff.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#7 posted 02-03-2018 02:31 PM

Thanks for the replies. Jim, I agree on the flocking. I did purchase the mini-flocker and that process was super easy. The flocking turned out great.

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#8 posted 02-03-2018 03:04 PM

I also use the “Flock it” materials. I use latex paint instead of their paint/adhesive. Cheaper and works well.

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wncguy

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#9 posted 02-03-2018 04:07 PM

Jim & Gene – thanks for added info & link. Looking at the video on the link helped me understand the process. I would not have thought about using a coat of shellac first.
I figure I will order a couple of colors along with a couple of “tubes” so they can be dedicated to the color.
Having never done this, I was thinking of ordering the rayon material. Some questions –
What is the difference between their soft flock & suede tex, which do you use?
Does using latex paint impact the type of fiber used? The idea to use the paint makes sense.
Jim – any issues getting good coverage on the inside of the box?
Any other thoughts/watch outs for a bone head like me?
Many thanks.

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Gene Howe

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#10 posted 02-03-2018 08:35 PM

I THINK the soft flock has longer fibers. Most guy use the suede tex.
Any paint would likely work. Just use the same color as the flocking material. I like oil based.
Use a cardboard box to spray in. It collects all the excess fibers.
Depending on your box design, you may have to spray from different directions. One of the reasons I like oil based paint. It doesn’t dry as quick.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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Jim Finn

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#11 posted 02-03-2018 09:49 PM

Gene is 100% right. Latex paint does dry pretty fast. I have done it both ways and opt for latex because it has a lot less odor. Tip: Apply lots of paint. Thick enough to form a puddle on any horizontal surfaces. Any brush marks in the paint will show up through the flocking.

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wncguy

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#12 posted 02-05-2018 01:48 PM

Gene & Jim – thank you again. If I have issues/questions I will pm you if that’s Okay.

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Hermit

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#13 posted 02-05-2018 02:17 PM

Somewhere I read or saw a video that says to always seal anywhere you plan on flocking. My first box I used tung oil followed by wipe on poly. The adhesive stuck, no visible brush marks whatsoever. I didnt notice any odor from the adhesive. Would latex paint adhere to say wipe on poly? I could see where not sealing beforehand could leave visible brush marks.
Wnc..like the videos show and directions say…when you think you’ve put enough flock on, put more!

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Knockonit

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#14 posted 02-05-2018 02:59 PM

LOL, my wife tried flocking some boxes this weekend, and here in Az. with no humidity to speak of, the glue dried so fast, first go around wasn’t too hot a finish. So she went and got some acrylic paint and lol, prepainted, then painted them again the color that matched the flocking material and went for it, have to say it worked much better, problem is and i can agree with this, even when gluing up pieces the titebond 2 dries really fast, so fast sometimes in just minutes i have to beat pieces into submission (making flush ect), anyhow, flocking is a learning curve, that she is working on, she did not get the suede material, but the other,
I will say her perseverance came thru and the second box drawers looked great
only four more to go, boxes that is.

Also on another note, i did buy into the wipe on poly, i’m on the fence, gonna give it another go on another project and see how it works out.
good luck, my first boxes were probably some of the toughest to do, not sure why i picked them, but learned a very valuable lesson, learn to cut them better, with a finer blade, otherwise, you sand, and sand and sand and sand and well you sand.

have a good day
Rj in az.

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